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The personal reason why Toby Booth would back British/Irish league

By Liam Heagney
Ospreys head coach Toby Booth (Photo by Tyler Miller/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

Outgoing Ospreys boss Toby Booth has explained the reason why he would support a British and Irish league. Speculation emerged last week that the Gallagher Premiership was interested in joining up with the 10 Irish, Scottish and Welsh clubs who play in the United Rugby Championship.

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These rumoured negotiations were quickly dismissed as false but Booth, who is set to exit his regional job in Wales at the end of the 2024/25 season, has outlined why he would back the English clubs joining up with their Celtic cousins in an amalgamated league.

Appearing on the latest episode of The Rugby Pod, Booth said: “From my own personal point of view, I’m not going to say the URC us better or worse. If you think what the pinnacle of rugby is – the pinnacle of rugby is British Lions playing against southern hemisphere.

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“That is how I was brought up and that’s how I see it. Look at the commercial validity of that and how it’s iconic, and I just wonder if British and Irish league is the bit that leads into that. That’s my own personal point of view.

“Obviously there is the Italians and growth of the global game and the Americas and all those things, but that is part of it. If you think of it, South Africa have got the best of both worlds.

“They play rugby in the northern hemisphere from a club point of view and then they play Championship down south, so they get preparations perfect. Does that co-exist with two World Cups back to back? No, that’s for other people to decide but it certainly wouldn’t hurt you.”

Having previously worked at London Irish and Bath, Booth also highlighted to show co-hosts Jim Hamilton and Andy Goode what he felt was the major difference he has found between the Premiership and URC. “There is definitely good and bad in both for sure having been both sides of the water.

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“The breakdown is an absolute shambles in the URC, it’s an absolute free for all. As you know when you played European stuff yourself against effectively what were Celtic League teams then, there was always a massive competition in that and that’s no different (now).

“The breakdown is so important outside the Prem because the Premiership, the way it’s refereed, it can be a bit sterile around that so you know who is going to keep it and people are more worried about numbers in breakdowns than they are about competition.

“My overriding thoughts straightaway is there is definitely different levels of understanding and professionalism for sure. I can only talk about my experience and that’s why we have managed to get quite a lot of traction because you don’t know what you don’t know. So from that point of view, we have grown a lot from a professionalism point of view.

“England’s Prem is probably used to doing it a certain way and has got exposure to different things but the variety of opposition, going to Stormers and winning last year, going there and learning to win in South Africa is some feat and to do that and also beat the Lions away last year in Europe gives you a lot of self-belief so you can get a lot of growth in it.

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“The facts of when you go around the Prem, and it’s probably more exaggerated now there is less teams in it, the merry-go-round is a bit smaller, you don’t necessarily expand your player’ growth as much as you could.”

Regarding the business of rugby, Booth added: “Ultimately we have the best game in the planet, if no one is coming to watch it or it’s not marketable then financing the game means it doesn’t become a viable career option for people so ultimately money has to play a part.

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“For me, it’s about making it commercially viable, whatever that looks like, because rugby is in a dark place. We have had English teams going bankrupt, we have had people living beyond their means, we’ve had covid, we have all the reasons I am sure you guys talked about a lot.

“So financially we need to get in a position where it can wash its face to the best of its ability and that involves TV. It has to. Without a doubt, I completely agree. There is definitely some merit in the strength of the URC competition.

“I know all the facts and figures about people who watch it and the difference in the game which is a good thing because it’s not the same (as the Premiership) which can be a bit sterile.

“But the big thing from a supporters point of view which is really difficult, your supporters can only watch half the games really because you have to get on a plane to go and watch them. That is a bit of an issue for me personally, from getting a performance out of people.

“We play Welsh derbies and that’s great but unless you change the format of the competition, that is going to be the same wherever you go so the logistical element for the supporters gets lifeblood and energy into the game and sport ultimately is entertainment.

“We are in the entertainment business, so we need to make it entertaining, viable, playing in the right time of the year makes it more exciting. I might look like I loves scrums and mauls all the time, I do, but you still need to cater for the masses and make it as attractive as possible.”

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Teddy 14 hours ago

He fairly lets the RFU off the hook. Zero blame for 3 clubs folding under their watch.


Would be massively unfair on Italy especially now that they've genuinely turned a corner.

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AC 21 hours ago

3 reasons it won't work:


1. URC teams are mostly managed by regions/nations, with the main purpose being to groom players for the national teams, Premiership teams are clubs, with the main purpose of turning a profit.


2. What happens to South Africa and even more confusingly, Italy? I guess the Saffa teams would go back to Super Rugby, but for a variety of reasons, they don't want that. And where the heck do you put the 2 Italian teams? France? Their own set up (they don't have nearly enough talent to field it)?


3. URC teams don't need it. The URC has been a big success. Save for maybe the Welsh teams, none of them want it.

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Ed the Duck 20 hours ago

I agree it’s a non starter. For now…


So point 1 is absolutely valid however the gp has just bent over and been most royally rogered by the rfu, with the England coach now dictating which player do or do not play.


Point 2, they won’t give a fcuk.


Point 3, they don’t, for now…

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Bull Shark 13 minutes ago
Why Rassie Erasmus should cull some Boks veterans for 2027

I think cull is the wrong word.


I think Rassie and the senior players will be pretty open and honest with each other about their prospects for another World Cup campaign. And, ironically, I don’t think Rassie is thinking as far ahead as 2027 in terms of who is going to go.


There are likely going to be injuries too where players one would assume will be at 2027 won’t feature. Think Marx and Am and 2023.


I think the priority is really having as many players as possible in contention for a spot on the 33 by the time squad selection comes around.


I made this point a while ago, but having double World Cup winners in the setup over the next 3 years is going to be golden for the boks. It’s like having a coach in each position.


Razor was criticized for having too many coaches in his team. Rassie has more than 15 player coaches at his disposal.


I think Siya is being teed up to play the same role Duane did at the 2023 RWC. Invitation to the coaching box this coming weekend included.


I think many of the old guard are playing a role in the team that certainly does not guarantee them a 2027 place but doesn’t hurt their chances at being selected - but they will have to be the no.1 or no. 2 best in that position to be selected at that time. There won’t be any dead weight - whether old or young.


In my mind the strategy would be quite simple. Take everyone who will be over 32 by 2027 and pencil their names in right now in slot number three for their relative position. We know what they can do and they know what they need to do to be in contention for 2027.


Then ask yourself who do we have to take position no.1 and no. 2. Tried and tested or not. Find them and trial them over the next 3 years. Their job is to keep the old guys out. And the old guys job is to help them do just that.


That’s what Rassie has to do and has started well trying 48 players and 11 debutants in year one as the article mentioned (and winning).


I reckon there’ll be another 5-10 new players tried by the end of this year, particularly in November.


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