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The ‘really unacceptable’ things Northampton are looking to fix

Northampton walk off at The Rec following their loss to Bath (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

Northampton Saints sound like they are on a round two mission to greatly improve their discipline following last weekend’s campaign opening loss at Bath. The defending champions conceded 14 penalties at The Rec and they also had a yellow card brandished to new signing Josh Kemeny towards the end of their 16-38 defeat.

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Seven of the 10 Gallagher Premiership teams that returned to action last weekend had double-figure penalty counts against them – with Northampton third on the list behind worst offenders Bristol, who gave up 17, and Exeter on 15.

Ahead of hosting the Chiefs at Franklin’s Gardens this Saturday, director of rugby Phil Dowson has put the heat on his team’s behaviour in the hope that it can keep them in the fight for an entire match, rather than slip away in the final quarter as happened at Bath after Fin Smith closed the margin to 16-21 with a 61st-minute penalty kick.

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Asked what he made of the array of penalties his team conceded, Dowson explained: “The Dupont rule, we got caught twice on and that is something from a coaching point of view, from my point of view, we need to be better. We have been going hard at it at training but clearly not hard enough. So that’s disappointing, but there is some clear understanding around that.

“The things that are done that are really frustrating are we pushed somebody into touch when it was our lineout in their half, we slammed down on somebody when he was prone and they get an easy exit when we are on the ascendency and are on the front foot. We talked back to the ref, things that are really unacceptable because they let the pressure off a team.

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“At 60 minutes I felt like we were we were on the front foot and we had some momentum but we didn’t convert that because of those more unacceptable ones.

“There is always going to be penalties. We don’t want to be bottom of the chart in terms of the penalties given away because we don’t want to be too clinical, we want to get in amongst the fight. But at the same time, we don’t want to be the team at the very top giving away the dumb ones.”

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Gallagher Premiership round one penalties conceded
17: Bristol
15: Exeter (+1YC)
14: Northampton (+1YC)
13: Leicester (+1RC, 1YC), Sale
11: Gloucester
10: Harlequins
9: Saracens
8: Bath
7: Newcastle

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JW 5 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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