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The reasons why England admit Springboks pack has grown since 2019

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The Springboks will arrive at Twickenham this Saturday having only played a dozen matches since being crowned World Cup winners in November 2019, but England assistant Matt Proudfoot has claimed this South African pack – which now includes Ox Nche – has grown in the two years since then despite their limited number of matches. 

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Proudfoot was part of the Springboks staff that helped Siya Kolisi and co go all the way to glory in Japan and while he has since worked with England in their 18 games in 2020 and 2021, he believes there has been an evolution in the South Africans since the last meeting between the two countries.

Jacques Nienaber is now the Springboks head coach and while he will go into battle this Saturday at Twickenham with five of the same starting pack that won the day in Yokohama, England scrum coach Proudfoot reckoned the visitors’ forwards now pose an even greater threat than at the finals 24 months ago. 

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“They have grown, Ox Nche has been a revelation for them coming in and taking the starting loosehead position from the Beast [Tendai Mtawarira],” he insisted when asked to compare the then and now Springboks packs. “A very different player. He has got a very different skillset. 

“If you look at the bomb squad that comes on with Steven (Kitshoff) and Malcolm (Marx), they have just grown in confidence, they know their role and they are very comfortable in their role so they have become a lot more experienced. They can handle different challenges that get presented to them. 

“The last two games (against Scotland and Wales) they have had to chase from late on, they were behind at stages and just how they were able to handle that. If you think in the World Cup they were ahead, so they were in the pound seats and they could control the game. I see there has been an evolution in their mindset and they are a lot more resilient, a lot more adaptive and that comes with experience so they have grown since 2019.

“Their pack is very important to them,” added Proudfoot. “As long as their pack goes forward their team does well. Their maul is just as important. They try to have two really big platforms that are important to them that if one day one isn’t working well they can go to the other. They try to have two big weapons.

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“They have a couple of powerful facets to their game but those tend to be two really emotive ones, they tend to drive them and it is going to be a challenge to confront those two. We have done our homework and have some really good plans and we are looking forward to the challenge of executing those plans.”

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JW 4 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I had a look at the wiki article again, it's all terribly old data (not that I'd see reason for much change in the case of SA).

Number Of Clubs:

1526

Registered+Unregistered Players:

651146

Number of Referees:

3460

Pre-teen Male Players:

320842

Pre-teen Female Player:

4522

Teen Male Player:

199213

Teen Female Player:

4906

Senior Male Player:

113174

Senior Female Player:

8489

Total Male Player:

633229

Total Female Player:

17917


So looking for something new as were more concerned with adults specifically, so I had a look at their EOY Financial Review.

The total number of clubs remains consistent, with a marginal increase of 1% from 1,161 to 1,167. 8.1.

A comparative analysis of verified data for 2022 and 2023 highlights a marginal decline of 1% in the number of female players, declining from 6,801 to 6,723. Additionally, the total number of players demonstrates an 8% decrease, dropping from 96,172 to 88,828.

So 80k+ adult males (down from 113k), but I'm not really sure when youth are involved with SAn clubs, or if that data is for some reason not being referenced/included. 300k male students however (200k in old wiki data).


https://resources.world.rugby/worldrugby/document/2020/07/28/212ed9cf-cd61-4fa3-b9d4-9f0d5fb61116/P56-57-Participation-Map_v3.pdf has France at 250k registered but https://presse-europe1-fr.translate.goog/exclu-europe-1-le-top-10-des-sports-les-plus-pratiques-en-france-en-2022/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp has them back up at 300k registered.


The French number likely Students + Club, but everyone collects data different I reckon. In that WR pdf for instance a lot of the major nations have a heavily registered setup, were as a nation like England can penetrate into a lot more schools to run camps and include them in the reach of rugby. For instance the SARU release says only 29% of schools are reached by proper rugby programs, where as the 2million English number would be through a much much higer penetration I'd imagine. Which is thanks to schools having the ability to involve themselves in programs more than anything.


In any case, I don't think you need to be concerned with the numbers, whether they are 300 or 88k, there is obviously a big enough following for their pro scenes already to have enough quality players for a 10/12 team competition. They appear ibgger than France but I don't really by the lower English numbers going around.

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