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The rematch they've all been waiting for: age-grade New Zealand and England sides look to get revenge

England's Owen Farrell and New Zealand's Beauden Barrett squred off in the 2011 U20 Rugby World Championship. (Original photos by Getty Images)

It’s been well documented that the last time England and New Zealand faced off in a World Cup was in 1999.

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The All Blacks earned a comfortable 30-16 win in that fixture at Twickenham. They were eventually knocked out of the tournament at the semi-final stages by a rampaging France outfit.

New Zealand outside backs Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane and Jordie Barrett were just a couple of years old when that competition took place. England’s Tom Curry had just turned one.

For a number of newer players, Saturday’s match will be their first involvement in a Test between England and New Zealand.

That doesn’t mean it will be the first time they’ve experienced the massive rivalry before, however.

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England reserve hooker Luke Cowan-Dickie says he is “massively excited” heading into the weekend.

“I’ve only ever played New Zealand in the U20s so it’s going to be a new thing for me and I’m just getting excited for the semi-final and bringing it on,” Cowan-Dickie said. “Their record’s good, they do win quite a few games so you’ve got to be excited.”

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You only have to go back a few World Cup cycles to see the history between some of the players that will line up on Saturday.

With stunning regularity, New Zealand and England squared off at least every two years in the Under 20 Junior World Championship between 2009 and 2017 – and plenty of the current World Cup representatives were involved.

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2008

2008 marked the first-ever Under 20 Championship, replacing the Under 21 and Under 19 versions of the competition.

New Zealand and England – indisputably the top two sides – unsurprisingly met in the competition final.

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The Baby Blacks fielded current New Zealand representatives Sam Whitelock and Ryan Crotty in their starting line-up, with Aaron Smith on the bench. Sean Maitland, who turned out for Scotland at the 2019 World Cup, also joined the fray late in the game for the Kiwis.

England had to make do with just one current national rep, in the form of reserve halfback Ben Youngs. Youngs will face off with Smith in the starting 9 jerseys this weekend.

New Zealand made short work of their opposition, triumphing 38-3. The Baby Blacks impressively conceded no tries throughout the whole tournament.

2009

The 2009 edition of the tournament, coincidentally hosted in Japan, saw the two nations meet in the competition final. Youngs, England’s most capped current player, and rake Jamie George both started in that final match. George, now considered one of the world’s best hookers, lined up on the openside flank whilst Youngs played in his usual scrumhalf role.

There were no current All Blacks in NZ’s set-up in 2009, but that didn’t stop the Baby Blacks from recording a convincing 44-28 win.

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2011

2011 was a special year for New Zealand rugby fans. It took a monumental effort from the All Blacks, but they finally secured the William Webb Ellis trophy for the first time in 24 years – on home soil, nonetheless.

Months earlier, New Zealand also managed to net another rugby trophy: the Junior World Championship.

Their final opponents were, of course, England.

The New Zealanders rolled out a frankly scary side, in hindsight.

The starting XV in the final included current All Blacks Codie Taylor, Brodie Retallick, Sam Cane, TJ Perenara and Beauden Barrett – all players who will once again turn out on Saturday for the Men in Black.

They also welcomed into the mix the likes of Ben Tameifuna, Brad Shields and Gareth Anscombe, who have now been capped for Tonga, England and Wales respectively.

England put out a fairly formidable side too.

Mako Vunipola started in the front row whilst George Ford, Owen Farrell and Elliot Daly formed an exceptionally talented midfield. All four will line up against New Zealand again on Saturday evening in Yokohama – though Daly has been shifted back to fullback.

The two titans traded points in the first half but the Baby Blacks pulled away after halftime, winning the match 33-22. Barrett, Tameifuna and Charles Piutau scored tries for New Zealand and Christian Wade and Henry Thomas dotted down for England.

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2013

Two years later, the rivals were at it again.

This time, in France, they met one round earlier and were playing for a spot in the grand final.

New Zealand’s side wasn’t quite as strong as it had been in 2011, but there were still a few men on the park that will be familiar to fans of the current All Blacks team, including locks Scott Barrett and Patrick Tuipulotu, and captain Ardie Savea.

The 2013 England side boasted plenty of talent too.

Cowan-Dickie anchored the front row whilst Anthony Watson and Jack Nowell combined in the outside backs. Henry Slade – used at outside centre in England’s quarter-final victory over Australia – ran the team from the 10 jersey. Current Wales international Ross Moriarty also started for the English.

The game ended in a similar scoreline to 2011’s tête-à-tête but instead in England’s favour, with the Red Roses triumphing 33-21.

England took an insurmountable 20-8 lead into the break, courtesy of tries to Watson and flanker Matt Hankin – who was forced to retire from rugby last year due to concussion. Slade netted 18 of England’s points with four penalties and three conversions to his name.

2015

2015, when the All Blacks managed a repeat World Cup victory, again saw England and New Zealand go head-to-head in the U20 World Championship.

Anton Lienert-Brown and Jack Goodhue, who will start in the midfield for the All Blacks this weekend, both marched out for the Baby Blacks in 2015 (though Lienert-Brown was at centre and Goodhue was on the right wing) while George Bridge was an unused sub on the bench. Atu Moli also captained the side and was in with a chance of earning a bench spot for this weekend’s match but lost out to Angus Ta’avao.

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Current England World Cup squad members Lewis Ludlam and Ellis Genge were prominent performers in England Under 20 side but won’t feature on Saturday.

Like during the last World Cup year, the 2015 match fell the way of the Kiwis, 21 points to 16.

2017

The most recent fixture between the two Under 20 sides came in the 2017 final. New Zealand cantered to a huge 64-17 victory, led by Luke Jacobson – who was named in the All Blacks initial World Cup squad but returned home early due to concussion concerns.

It’s been an almost whitewash of wins for the Baby Blacks over the last 20 years with England ending up on the wrong side of a few substantial scorelines. Whilst results for the Test side will take precedence, you can be sure that players from both sides will remember the various encounters the teams have shared through all levels of the game, giving them that little bit more extra motivation to take out Saturday’s semi-final.

Eddie Jones is confident that his men can handle the pressure against a well-versed New Zealand side:

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JW 2 hours ago
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I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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