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The RFU rule Mike Tindall would happily bin to make England better

Mike Tindall during his England playing days (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

England Rugby World Cup winner Mike Tindall has claimed the RFU must rethink its approach and allow Test-level players who are based outside of the Gallagher Premiership to be made eligible for selection.

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Head coach Steve Borthwick is heading into the start of the 2024 Guinness Six Nations unable to select four players who were part of the England squad at the recent Rugby World Cup as they are playing their club rugby in France.

The Toulouse-based Jack Willis, Toulon’s David Ribbans, Stade Francais’ Joe Marchant and Racing 92’s Henry Arundell have all missed out on getting picked by Borthwick due to earning their living outside of the Premiership – and more players are set to join them across the Channel in 2024/25 and make themselves Test-selection ineligible.

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It’s red tape that Tindall, the 2003 World Cup-winning midfielder, wants scrapping as quickly as possible. “There is a big thing with England at the moment about trying to protect the Premiership but I’m sort of the other side (of the argument),” he told In The Zone, the Gambling Zone podcast series.

“For years, the Premiership has paid other nations to house their great players. Faf de Klerk, Lood de Jager. A lot of South Africans have come and played in this league and then gone back and won World Cups and they are bringing up the next generation of players.

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“I have got no issues with English players going away and other people paying their salaries and then coming back and playing for their country,

“I would get rid of it at the moment just because of where we are salary cap-wise. You could get paid well to play in this country (before the cut)… That’s the thing we have got wrong, we have got to find a way so that even a club like Newcastle can become an attractive place to go and play.

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“We need to guarantee they can get 10,000 fans through the turnstiles and at the moment we can’t do that with the way the league is set up but yet we drag our feet with his we should change things to make it better.

“There are things coming in from what I am hearing about trying to move things forward… but the rugby cog turns very slowly and we missed out on a chance during covid to change it fast and dramatically and it would have created a lot of interest.”

Tindall added: “We are playing catch up. Rugby is a game built on tradition and we love that tradition, but some of those traditions should go. How long ago did Will Carling have his moment with the committee and has that really changed? I don’t think it has.

“I don’t think we have anyone who is driving severe change but if someone does come in they normally don’t get anywhere because people don’t want to do they change. If we want rugby to survive, we have to flip it completely on its head.

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“If you look at every major sport, the club game drives everything. However, international rugby drives the sport, not club rugby. It’s the wrong way around. You have got the third biggest global sporting event in the Rugby World Cup, which is massive.”

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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