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The RugbyPass Form XV: Chat back as 'les rosbifs' dominate

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Form XV: After their match with Fiji was cancelled last week, France got their Autumn Nations Cup campaign started with a win over Scotland on Sunday.

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Fabien Galthié’s side staked their claim for being the form side in Europe, with a final against England looking likely after their win over Ireland.

Meanwhile, Wales registered their second win of 2020 against Georgia and Argentina salvaged a draw against Australia after their heroics against the All Blacks the week before, as the Form XV sees plenty of new faces.

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1 WYN JONES
Against a Georgia side famed for their love of the scrum, Wales’ Wyn Jones certainly came out on top, winning two early penalties and proving he is Wayne Pivac’s best scrummaging loosehead.

2 CAMILLE CHAT
In an attritional battle up front against Scotland, France’s Camille Chat tirelessly threw his weight around for the first 50 minutes.

3 KYLE SINCKLER
Kyle Sinckler’s tremendous workrate was exhibited against Ireland, as he made 20 tackles and proved to be a tough match for Cian Healy at the scrum.

4 MARO ITOJE
Another man of the match performance for Maro Itoje against Ireland, as the lock’s standards never seem to drop.

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5 BERNARD LE ROUX
Bernard Le Roux typifies the new industrious and ferocious French defence under Shaun Edwards, topping the tackle count against Scotland.

6 PABLO MATERA
The Argentina captain Pablo Matera put in another shift against Australia, contributing in all aspects of the game for the Pumas.

7 SAM UNDERHILL
England’s tackling machine Sam Underhill shone in a monumental defensive effort by his team at Twickenham, whilst also proving to be a nuisance at the breakdown.

8 GRÉGORY ALLDRITT
A vital member of the France XV and part of this burgeoning new generation of players, Grégory Alldritt was happy to make the hard yards against a Scotland defence that proved hard to break down.

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9 ANTOINE DUPONT
A quiet game by his usual high standards, but there are few players in better form than Antoine Dupont currently.

10 NICOLÁS SÁNCHEZ
The scorer of all of Argentina’s points so far in the Tri-Nations, Nicolás Sánchez’s boot has been the deciding factor in the win over the All Blacks and the draw with Australia.

11 JONNY MAY
Scorer of two tries against Ireland, including one of the great solo efforts seen this year, Jonny May is rightfully receiving plenty of plaudits from his coach Eddie Jones.

12 HUNTER PAISAMI
Argentina struggled to handle Australia’s midfield combo of Hunter Paisami and Jordan Petaia on Saturday, particularly in a dominant first half.

13 VIRIMI VAKATAWA
France’s Virimi Vakatawa was at the end of his team’s scything strike move at Murrayfield, but the outside centre had come close to scoring twice before as his purple patch continues.

14 LOUIS REES-ZAMMIT
A try and an assist for Wales’ Louis Rees-Zammit only tells half the story, as the 19-year-old came close to scoring again and showed on a number of occasions how dangerous he can be when given space.

15 TOM WRIGHT
Although on the wing against Argentina at the weekend, the rugby league convert Tom Wright showed in his second Test what a classy and dependable prospect he is for the Wallabies.

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JW 2 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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