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The Short Ball - s04e13 - Should Super Rugby outlaw the draw?

This week on The Short Ball Scotty Stevenson is joined once more by Ali Williams, who is like a new-born giraffe on skates as they cover off the Super Rugby week that was before looking forward to this weekend’s fixtures as we head into the final third of the season.

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No one likes a draw, not the players, not the supporters, so should Super Rugby go for the golden point? What is an alternative that will ensure we get results? Scotty Stevenson may just have found the perfect solution…

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OJohn 1 hour ago
Does the next Wallabies coach have to be an Australian?

No, bugger off Schmidt, stop interfering in Australian rugby to keep us down

Your selections are rubbish and your game plan is unAustralian. Go back to NZ. Oh wait, you're actually still there ......

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Cantab 2 hours ago
Ex-Wallaby explains why All Blacks aren’t at ‘panic stations’ under Razor

Which is why more depth needs development. There are are several players waiting in the mix who will be good to great ABs. Our bench replacements this year were not always up to the mark

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SC 2 hours ago
Ex-Wallaby explains why All Blacks aren’t at ‘panic stations’ under Razor

Disagree.


The challenge for the All Blacks now that they have 7 of 8 starting forwards locked in and all but one bench forward (only one loose forward and bench loosie to settle on) is to sort out the starting backline as only 9 Roigard, 12 J. Barrett, 11 Clarke and 15 Jordan had good to outstanding seasons in 2024. All the other backs were inconsistent or poor and question marks going into 2025.

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DA 5 hours ago
Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu suffers new injury setback

he should not be playing 12. He should be playing 10 and team managers should stop playing players out of position to accommodate libbok.

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Bull Shark 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

Aus hasn’t owned the bled in 21 years.

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Bull Shark 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

Dupont!!

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Jobe 9 hours ago
Leinster player ratings vs Connacht | 2024/25 URC

I just can't agree with 8.5 for Ross Byrne. A 6 at best I would think.

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Barry 9 hours ago
Warren Gatland finds out his fate as Wales undergo huge changes

I wouldn't take it personally that you didn't hear from Gatland, chief.


It's likely he just doesn't have your phone number.


You can't polish a turd. No coach can change that team at the moment.

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Bull Shark 10 hours ago
Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu suffers new injury setback

Uhh, he was playing inside centre?


Do you understand the role of a 12?

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Bull Shark 10 hours ago
'Springbok Galacticos can't go it alone for trophy-hunting Sharks'

"aside from winning RWCs and playing some really good rugby?"


What a doos.

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Ed the Duck 10 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

Well if you’re correct in that assertion then it blows up all of the numbers in the original post that came from, do you recognise the overall number or even the 300k residual for senior male player numbers in SA?


Tbf, even 300k senior players is an impressive resource, particularly if there is a residual of untapped school talent that could be developed if required and resources allow.

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Ed the Duck 10 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

Now that is a slam dunk response right there!!!

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Ed the Duck 10 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I’d say SA continuation is pretty much a slam dunk. They have brought much to the table in the URC with revenue growth, fan engagement and player enjoyment - yes, this is a factor too! On top of that there is still much headroom for further growth, both in the URC and especially with EPCR. The only resistance to SA teams comes from the English at present, mainly because they can’t win the CC any longer and their clubs are in real financial shit, but their recent overtures were firmly rejected.


I can only see great things on the horizon for SA inclusion in the URC and EPCR, if the right format adjustments are made. But if they are, then further success will follow and there is a strong likelihood that 6N becomes 7N as well.

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Ed the Duck 10 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

Great post and spot on in your analysis about generations to develop African rugby. There’s a strong argument to say that pursuing the successful URC path they’re already on and getting the EPCR comps to do similar will provide a role model for African countries AND fund SA activities, such as the development tours to Arg you mention, to help grow African rugby in parallel.

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DH 10 hours ago
Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu suffers new injury setback

That's twice he has tried to run at forwards and got his butt kicked. This isn't school boy rugby anymore. Give the ball to the forwards to take up and manage your runners outside of you. Ask Pollard for advice on how, if you don't understand

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NB 11 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

Pure fantasy JW.

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NB 11 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

Yes that comment bewildered me too! The Rand in bad shape.

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NB 11 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

“I think if you asked me that question maybe three years ago or when I first left Australia, I had so much, I suppose, animosity or professional anger inside of me just because I felt like maybe my talent really wasn’t looked after in Australia.


“But to be honest now I feel like I am where I’m supposed to be, like here in Scotland. And I feel like all those things that happened early in my career were meant to happen because now I’m sitting here talking to you guys in the position that I am.”

From the horse's mouth. It's a better rugby destination.

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NB 11 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that.

Nah. Ireland had to put in a lot of work on guys like JGP and Lowey to get them to the standard expected. There were areas of their game that were sub-par when they first came over from NZ.

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NB 11 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

They don't go for money, but for lifestyle, and NZ uses PI's a resource like everyone else. They don't belong to you.

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