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The Springboks verdict on England's much-vaunted back row

Tom Curry of England congratulates team mate Ben Earl after the Rugby World Cup France 2023 match between England and Argentina at Stade Velodrome on September 9, 2023 in Marseille, France. (Photo by Craig Mercer/MB Media/Getty Images)

One of the standout performers for England so far this World Cup, if not the standout performer, has been No8 Ben Earl, who has been playing the rugby of his life in both the No8 and No7 jersey so far.

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Alongside England’s 104-cap vice-captain Courtney Lawes and British & Irish Lions openside Tom Curry, that makes quite a formidable trio and South Africa head coach Jacques Nienaber is aware of that.

After naming his Springboks side to face England in the World Cup semi-final this Saturday, Nienaber described how England’s back row “complement each other quite well”, and commended both Earl and Lawes for how they effectively played an entire match in a two-man back row against Argentina in the opening game of the tournament following Curry’s red card.

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“They have a quality back row who complement each other quite well,” he said. “Even when they got a red card against Argentina, the way the other two performed and just absorbed his [Tom Curry’s] role was quite impressive. They are a quality team, we obviously know them through the [English] Premiership. While following our players’ performances, we see them as well.

Before he lavished England’s loose forwards in too much praise, Nienaber did highlight that they are coming up against the exact trio that started in the Springboks’ World Cup final victory over England in 2019. The experienced trio of Siya Kolisi, Pieter-Steph du Toit and Duane Vermeulen are set to start together for the 15th time, which is a back row record that has only been bettered in green by Francois Louw, Willem Alberts and Vermeulen, who played together 17 times.

Nienaber said: “If you look at our back row, they all started the final in 2019 and they are all on form and playing well, so it’s going to be a nice match-up.”

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Bob Marler 396 days ago

According to duck duck go…

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Etienne 397 days ago

England has experience of knock out rugby. They will compete، unlike Argentina

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Scud 398 days ago

I’m reading these comments with complete disbelief…. they really are deluded.. they think that England have a better back row than Boks???? We will see on Saturday just how good they are.. as Tyson says everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face!

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Daniel 398 days ago

England are a good side. The so called easy road could easily camouflage their quality and lead to dangerous assumptions and complacency, at which point you will definitely lose the match. I’m a South African, but I respect England, an underrated and dangerous team.

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Tom 398 days ago

Much vaunted?

It's a good back row but if anything it's underrated not vaunted.

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Michael 398 days ago

Zach Mercer

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Mark 399 days ago

The England backrow has been compromised by Borthwick picking only 1 specialist no 8 in vunipola and then not trusting him to start a test!!, this leaves Ben Earl having to play out of position, he’s a great player but not at no 8, a position you need yrs to become proficient at.
Our backrow lacks ball carrying oomph when compared to the boks or France or Ireland.
We need a big ball carrying 8.

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KiwiSteve 399 days ago

Lawes World Class, carries the team.

Curry loose canon can't tackle.

Earl fast but too light compared to the Boks.

Still looking for the vaunt.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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