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The tense moment when Gatland refused to play ball for post-match BBC interview

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You’d think in the aftermath of a resounding success, a winning rugby coach would be enthusiastically inclined to talk to the world and its mother. Not so. Flash post-match TV interviews within minutes of the final whistle sounding are seemingly even a precarious business with the victor.

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So outlines Sonja McLaughlan, the BBC reporter tasked with getting insight shortly after the end of a Guinness Six Nations match. Speaking to the UK Telegraph, she recalled how awkward things were with Warren Gatland when she sought to interview him just after Wales had clinched the 2019 Grand Slam in the Cardiff rain.

It was a resounding success for Gatland in the final Six Nations championship, swatting aside all-comers to clinch the third Grand Slam of his stellar stint in charge of the Welsh before he moved on to become coach of the Super Rugby Chiefs.

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Current Chiefs Coach Warren Gatland guests on The Breakdown, the Sky NZ TV rugby programme

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Current Chiefs Coach Warren Gatland guests on The Breakdown, the Sky NZ TV rugby programme

Rather than bask in the achievement of his success, Gatland apparently had the hump following a question the reporter has asked him earlier in the week and he initially refused to accommodate the BBC. “I honestly think that doing the post-match is the hardest thing to do,” explained McLaughlan.

“There are emotions swirling around for the players and the coaches, you’re out in the elements. And you have to ask people things that they might not want to be asked about. I asked Warren Gatland about being linked with the England job in the press conference midweek once.

“He was fine at the time and then on the pitch when Wales won the Grand Slam, I was about to interview him and he said, ‘You let yourself down asking that’. I was like: ‘The BBC has delayed the news here so I can interview him, I really better get to talk to you!’ And the producer is in the ear going, ‘Get Gatland! Get Gatland!’ He did talk in the end but it was tense.

“I was trained as a journalist: you ask questions like what, where, who, when, how,” added McLaughlan. “It’s not like those broadcast interviews where the journalist just makes some bland statement and the player waffles back. 

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“I would say to Alun Wyn Jones: ‘Was there cheating?’ People like me are the last of a breed I think because what TV wants is different now.”

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Smith generally isn't well connected to his forward pods; doesn't do a great job of distributing to those around him; and has inferior positional and contestable kicking games than Ford and Fin.


When England have had success over the past few years, its been either through (i) defensive rugby backed up with smart tactical kicking or (ii) high possession attacking phase play based on quick ruck ball. George Ford was key to the implementation of (i) in the RWC, and in the 6N win over Wales, and to the implementation of (ii) in the 6N games against Ireland and France. Smith did great at (ii) when running at tired defenders at the end of the Ireland match, but has never successfully implemented that gameplan from the start of a test because he doesn't distribute or support his forwards enough to create consistent fast ball and build attacks over multiple phases. Instead, his introduction to the starting side has resulted in much more playmaking responsibilities being forced onto whoever plays 9. Alex Mitchell copes ok with that, but I think he looks better with a more involved playmaking 10 outside him, and it really isn't a gameplan that works for JVP or Spencer. As a result of that the outside backs and centres have barely touched the ball when Smith has been at 10.


This might not have been too much of a disaster, as England have seemed to be moving slightly towards the sort of attacking gameplan that France played under Labit and Quins play (I think this was especially their approach when they won the league a few years ago - but its still a part of their play now), which is based on kicking to create broken field rugby. This is (i) a sharp departure from the gameplans that have worked for England in the past few seasons; (ii) bears very little relation to the tactical approaches of the non-Quins players in the England team; and (iii) is an absolute disaster for the blitz defence, which is weak in transition. Unsurprisingly, it has coincided with a sharp decline in England's results.

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