Northern Edition

Select Edition

Northern Northern
Southern Southern
Global Global
New Zealand New Zealand
France France

The two best teams in the world

(Photos by Aurelien Meunier/Getty Images and David Fitzgerald/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

The two best teams in the world are clearly France and Ireland and the latest rankings by World Rugby finally reflect that.

ADVERTISEMENT

France have been on the up since the last World Cup and currently sit on a 10 test winning streak, having claimed a Grand Slam Six Nations title earlier in the year.

Ireland’s 2-1 series win over New Zealand continued their great run, before that they had won 12 of their last 15 tests over a two-year period.

Video Spacer

Scott Robertson’s potential All Blacks side

READ STORY

Video Spacer

Scott Robertson’s potential All Blacks side

READ STORY

Two of their three losses were to France, while an early red card to Peter O’Mahony led to a close loss to Wales in Cardiff in the 2021 Six Nations. They have now won 14 of their last 18 tests, a touch below 80 per cent.

The France side that has defeated Ireland twice over the last two Six Nations is their antithesis when it comes to style.

They have the polar opposite game to Ireland and it worked to defeat them, albeit on both occasions by a small margin.

France kick the most out of the Six Nations sides, keeping the ball-in-hand the least. Yet, when they decide to play, they take the most risks. They offload more than any of their European rivals.

ADVERTISEMENT

France and Italy were the only sides to kick out-of-hand more than 30 times against Ireland this year. Wales (15), Scotland (25), and England (24) were all short of that mark and lost.

Ireland of course have the world’s best attacking patterns and play a ball-in-hand possession game, while kicking and offloading the least.

Despite the differences between Ireland and France, the consistency of results from these two teams is far beyond any other team right now, including the 2019 World Cup winners South Africa, who haven’t backed up the win in Japan with any sort of dominance to suggest they were ever the best team to begin with.

The Lions series was a decent start but taking results against the other top regarded sides (France, Ireland, New Zealand, Australia and England), the Springboks were one from five against them at a 20 per cent win rate in 2021 after skipping out on 2020.

ADVERTISEMENT

They haven’t played Ireland since 2017 or France since 2018 so they sit in the dark about where they sit against the top two and their 20 per cent win rate against the other three isn’t pretty for a team that was crowned and trumpeted as the world’s best.

The Welsh were tough opponents in South Africa but ultimately they were the ninth-ranked team heading into the series and should have been swept 3-0. They nearly stole the first test and won the second, before finally a comprehensive Springbok win.

Considering how the Welsh sides played in South Africa during the United Rugby Championship, to lose one of the tests is remarkable, experimentation or not.

The expectation from inside South Africa from figures like former coach Nick Mallet, rightly assumed wins of 15 points or more from the first test.

The Boks are 60 per cent since the World Cup which is below the mark Ian Foster currently has with the All Blacks, 66 per cent, and the reaction from each country’s public and media couldn’t be more different.

The two sides will meet in South Africa where the home side finally have a chance to start prove themselves against the worst performing All Black side of the last 25 years.

The Springboks went one from four against New Zealand and Australia Down Under last year, qualified by the ‘we played away’ excuse.

In the Rassie Erasmus/Jacques Nienaber era, the Springboks have a 36 per cent win rate against their annual rivals, Australia and New Zealand, with just four wins from 11 tests since 2018. It’s hardly the mark of greatness.

There will never be a better time to put the All Blacks away, with back-to-back tests on home soil, to help improve that dire return.

The real challenge will be France and Ireland away at the end of the year, while they have also historically struggled in Australia. The least they can do is take the opportunity being handed to them right now with New Zealand.

England’s comeback to win the series in Australia was a significant achievement on their path back into the top five nations, highlighting the importance of the Saracens’ core with the return of Billy Vunipola.

Related

With the barnstorming No 8 back in the mix, England were a completely different side and sparked into life in Brisbane. The breaking up of the Saracens core was detrimental to England and now it looks like it might have a second wind.

The way they played in the second test was the best they had played in almost two years, with new halfback Jack van Portfliet igniting their tempo on a dry surface helping England play a fast and accurate passing game.

Australia have still struggled without Quade Cooper available. They went on a five test win streak once he returned last year and then went winless on the end of year tour. Still, just four points separated England and Australia in the third and final test suggesting there was not much between the two sides.

France, despite a lesser series against Japan, still deserve to be considered the best side with the current run they are on. Ireland is in the same league and they are the top two sides in the world followed by the rest of the pack.

The Rugby Championship will sort out numbers three through five, with England there or thereabouts.

ADVERTISEMENT

LIVE

{{item.title}}

Trending on RugbyPass

Comments

20 Comments
J
Johan 874 days ago

Ben Smith is really stupid.

D
Dave 878 days ago

You'd think this guy would have a better understanding of rugby considering his profession. How did Ireland beat NZ Ben? How did France beat NZ? In both instances their forwards beat them up. They going to be able to do that to a Springbok pack? No? Then what?

D
Dave 878 days ago

This guy really has a chip on his shoulder about SA...doesn't matter how many world cups they win or how long they are at No.1, according to Ben they are always "over-rated". When does actual reality start to matter in journalism Ben? France and Ireland both have a 25% win record vs SA. Ireland haven't beaten them since 2017 and France since 2009...but they are clearly way better? Put your money where your mouth is and write an apology article after the Nov tests when SA beat both of them at home.

d
dave 885 days ago

Read through the comments. A few Saffies seem a bit nervous judging by the way they're competing to dismiss Ireland and France. That would be a mistake. They are both a serious threat. I dont think either team has remotely peaked, either. If anyone has run their course it's Jones' England, he's long overdue replacing. Allegations of 'chokery' are just silly. Granted our WC record is really poor, but only a fool would dismiss this Ireland team. See youse in November, fellas. Be ready.

C
CT 885 days ago

Opinions are like arseholes everyone has one,I agree the French have a good side the Irish on the other hand I really don't consider a great side ,as for the Boks always considered the underdogs that's exactly where we want to be,as we were before the last world cup watch this space world cup final Boks Vs France ,and prediction Boks win

R
Rouan 885 days ago

Ha ha love this article, Ireland and France will choke like they always do in the World Cup, Ireland has played a series in South Africa or France a series in South Africa in a couple of years

W
Warren 886 days ago

Oh dear... Ireland and France have peaked too soon. I suspect that next year we'll have another South Africa v England WC final. All Blacks wont make it past the quarter finals.

G
Gerald 886 days ago

A wonderful article, and cannot but agree with Ben here about SA. They really are a poor side now, and will need to improve dramatically. Maybe a few matches against Tonga and Namibia needed to get confidence back.

Skipping 2020 and then only playing Lions and the sides they played last year is no way to build a better win/loss ratio.

R
Roy 886 days ago

France are the best side in the world, in my opinion because they have a higher ceiling and are less reliant on one player.

There is very little doubt that Ireland have some great players and currently have a system and coaching team that extract every last drop of performance out of this Irish squad. But without Sexton, they don't have the same control. They have 2 controlling 9s but back up 10s just wouldn't impact the game to the same degree as sexton does.

I feel with the French, they have a number of top quality players in most positions. They don't play with quite the same continuity as the Irish but they still have room for growth because most of their key players are young.

We are talking small margins, but Ireland have been figured out before because they play a simpler game plan. A team like South Africa could match them with physicality and the it becomes a toss of a coin.

French have more march winners able to be the difference in ways that are not as stifle or stop.

W
West Coast 886 days ago

The most petty "journalist" out there, mate it just comes across as sad, maybe you need a nap or a hug.

Load More Comments

Join free and tell us what you really think!

Sign up for free
ADVERTISEMENT

Latest Features

Comments on RugbyPass

J
JW 2 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

In another recent article I tried to argue for a few key concept changes for EPCR which I think could light the game up in the North.


First, I can't remember who pointed out the obvious elephant in the room (a SA'n poster?), it's a terrible time to play rugby in the NH, and especially your pinnacle tournament. It's been terrible watching with seemingly all the games I wanted to watch being in the dark, hardly able to see what was going on. The Aviva was the only stadium I saw that had lights that could handle the miserable rain. If the global appeal is there, they could do a lot better having day games.


They other primary idea I thuoght would benefit EPCR most, was more content. The Prem could do with it and the Top14 could do with something more important than their own league, so they aren't under so much pressure to sell games. The quality over quantity approach.


Trim it down to two 16 team EPCR competitions, and introduce a third for playing amongst the T2 sides, or the bottom clubs in each league should simply be working on being better during the EPCR.


Champions Cup is made up of league best 15 teams, + 1, the Challenge Cup winner. Without a reason not to, I'd distribute it evenly based on each leauge, dividing into thirds and rounded up, 6 URC 5 Top14 4 English. Each winner (all four) is #1 rank and I'd have a seeding round or two for the other 12 to determine their own brackets for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. I'd then hold a 6 game pool, home and away, with consecutive of each for those games that involve SA'n teams. Preferrably I'd have a regional thing were all SA'n teams were in the same pool but that's a bit complex for this simple idea.


That pool round further finalises the seeding for knockout round of 16. So #1 pool has essentially duked it out for finals seeding already (better venue planning), and to see who they go up against 16, 15,etc etc. Actually I think I might prefer a single pool round for seeding, and introduce the home and away for Ro16, quarters, and semis (stuffs up venue hire). General idea to produce the most competitive matches possible until the random knockout phase, and fix the random lottery of which two teams get ranked higher after pool play, and also keep the system identical for the Challenge Cup so everthing is succinct. Top T2 side promoted from last year to make 16 in Challenge Cup

207 Go to comments
J
JW 7 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I had a look at the wiki article again, it's all terribly old data (not that I'd see reason for much change in the case of SA).

Number Of Clubs:

1526

Registered+Unregistered Players:

651146

Number of Referees:

3460

Pre-teen Male Players:

320842

Pre-teen Female Player:

4522

Teen Male Player:

199213

Teen Female Player:

4906

Senior Male Player:

113174

Senior Female Player:

8489

Total Male Player:

633229

Total Female Player:

17917


So looking for something new as were more concerned with adults specifically, so I had a look at their EOY Financial Review.

The total number of clubs remains consistent, with a marginal increase of 1% from 1,161 to 1,167. 8.1.

A comparative analysis of verified data for 2022 and 2023 highlights a marginal decline of 1% in the number of female players, declining from 6,801 to 6,723. Additionally, the total number of players demonstrates an 8% decrease, dropping from 96,172 to 88,828.

So 80k+ adult males (down from 113k), but I'm not really sure when youth are involved with SAn clubs, or if that data is for some reason not being referenced/included. 300k male students however (200k in old wiki data).


https://resources.world.rugby/worldrugby/document/2020/07/28/212ed9cf-cd61-4fa3-b9d4-9f0d5fb61116/P56-57-Participation-Map_v3.pdf has France at 250k registered but https://presse-europe1-fr.translate.goog/exclu-europe-1-le-top-10-des-sports-les-plus-pratiques-en-france-en-2022/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp has them back up at 300k registered.


The French number likely Students + Club, but everyone collects data different I reckon. In that WR pdf for instance a lot of the major nations have a heavily registered setup, were as a nation like England can penetrate into a lot more schools to run camps and include them in the reach of rugby. For instance the SARU release says only 29% of schools are reached by proper rugby programs, where as the 2million English number would be through a much much higer penetration I'd imagine. Which is thanks to schools having the ability to involve themselves in programs more than anything.


In any case, I don't think you need to be concerned with the numbers, whether they are 300 or 88k, there is obviously a big enough following for their pro scenes already to have enough quality players for a 10/12 team competition. They appear ibgger than France but I don't really by the lower English numbers going around.

207 Go to comments
TRENDING
TRENDING Ex-Wallaby explains why All Blacks aren’t at ‘panic stations’ under Razor Ex-Wallaby explains why All Blacks aren’t at ‘panic stations’
Search