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'The worst thing for us': Former captain on what makes the Springboks uncomfortable

Pieter-Steph Du Toit of South Africa celebrates following the team’s victory during the Rugby World Cup France 2023 match between England and South Africa at Stade de France on October 21, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

As the Springboks prepare to meet the All Blacks in the Rugby World Cup final for the second time, former World Cup-winning captain John Smit has explained what makes South Africa uncomfortable.

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After winning the 2019 Rugby World Cup they took over the number one ranking but that tag didn’t sit well, with South Africa dropping three Tests in a row after the Lions series and failing to retain the Rugby Championship trophy.

In three years as world champions South Africa failed to win any of the Rugby Championship tournaments.

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Smit explained that wearing the favourites tag is uncomfortable for South Africa as it robs them of their fighting mentality that they use as fuel.

“I think it has to do with where we come from, we are quite resilient,” he explained to The Official Rugby World Cup podcast.

“We always feel back home we are fighting through something, for something. Things aren’t always comfortable, it can be a struggle back home for a lot of people.

“Our mentality is to always knuckle down and rise up against adversity and overcome. That is why I think we fit into that seat a little bit around ‘stuff them, we want to climb up that mountain’.

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“The worst thing for us is to sit on top and talk about how good we are.”

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Former hooker Shalk Brits, who was a squad member of the 2019 side, also agreed saying that Rassie Erasmus will want the underdog tag heading into the final.

South Africa stunned England four years ago sitting in a similar position after Eddie Jones’ side beat a favoured All Blacks side in the semi-final.

“The South African perspective is we like to have our backs against the wall,” he said.

“We want to be the underdogs. That is what Rassie [Erasmus] will say.”

Brits believed that the final would hinge on the start and he revealed his biggest fear for the final is the All Blacks jumping out to a quick lead.

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At Mt Smart in Auckland the All Blacks raced out to a 17-0 lead in the first 20 minutes which proved insurmountable.

In the 2019 World Cup pool game it was a similar story with two quick tries in the first half putting the All Blacks up 17-3. They went on to win 23-13.

“That is my biggest fear in the game [a poor start]. When we put New Zealand under the pump, from the word go and the way we defend, we want teams to start running against us.

“We saw against England, they kicked a lot and turned our rush defence around a lot.”

 

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Daniel 392 days ago

I would use the Mbonambi saga as fuel if I were Rassie. I would frame it as an attack, which might be complete nonsense, but whatever works in your changeroom on the day. It’s about what people believe.

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Jacque 392 days ago

I don’t care what “Ben Smith” “writes” on RugbyPass. He is a CHILD when it comes to the Boks.

I don’t understand how he can still be allowed to “write” stuff here when you look at his X (twitter) account.
It’s not even that has an opinion… he’s like a 5th grader with ZERO knowledge of rugby.

Ian Cameron, Hamish Bidwell & rest of the guys write decent stuff… then there’s this bloke…

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Frank 392 days ago

John the only thing that matters is the World Cup. No matter the Championships etc. tests, the World Cup is all that matters.

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CT 392 days ago

The last match between the two,i didn't see the ABs do anything for about the first 60 minutes Boks shut them down 2023 Twickenham repeat on it's way ,roll on all the excuses😉 it wasn’t a real match,it was just for fun,we only had 14 players,if so the AB’s should have refused to play if they weren’t serious, they were overwhelmed.As I undersand the AB’s as a team always go on a field to win,Not?

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Snash 392 days ago

Hey Ben, will we see you writing here soon after the final (and about the final) regardless who wins? Asking for some friends 😎

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William 392 days ago

Rugby Pass we can all write Ben Smith’s drivel for you after the final, free of charge.

If NZ win it will be how incredibly this team is, without peers. Also about the magnificent turn around from their mid world cup cycle slump.

If the Boks win, he will highlight that they are a cup team, a lucky one at best. not worth mentioning in the same breath as the AB all conquering 2011-2015 team, that also went back to back.

See easy, mahala. Hope we are treated to awesome rugby, Boks v All Blacks, once in a generation occasion!!

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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