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'Their skill execution was absolutely atrocious': Irish pundits pick apart England's loss

Elliot Daly of England passes the ball to George Furbank (not pictured), who goes onto to score the first try for England, during the Guinness Six Nations 2024 match between Scotland and England at BT Murrayfield Stadium on February 24, 2024 in Edinburgh, Scotland. (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

Scotland’s golden run over England continued with a fourth consecutive Calcutta Cup win at Murrayfield as Steve Borthwick’s side showcased a litany of errors.

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A hat-trick to star winger Duhan van der Merwe powered Scotland to a 30-21 victory as the home side made the visitors pay for poor execution.

Despite coming into the game with wins over Italy and Wales, there were still concerns over the state of the England side given the unconvincing form that Borthwick’s side were showing.

Irish TV pundits dissected the performance on Virgin Media Sport which showed England were who everyone thought they were.

“They’re just… if we were going to show you an England errors package, we’d be here for half an hour,” Matt Williams told the Virgin Media Sport panel.

“They just made error after error. And you think, the three Van der Merwe tries were from English errors.

“The error off the scrum, the falcon off the head of [George] Furbank, then an English lineout that was lost that led to the possession for the cross-field kick for his third try.

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“That is just a small picture of the number of errors they made. They dropped restarts, they dropped lineouts, they had Scotland beaten at the scrum and they kept engaging too early. There were four free kicks for early engagement.

“The ill discipline was just ridiculous. The number of passes that just went nowhere, thrown into touch.”

Ex-Ireland international Rob Kearney offered a glass-half full view of England, praising their attempt at playing with more ambition but lambasted their ability to do so.

He said it was the “best” rugby that England have tried to play in a while but absolutely failed at trying to implement it.

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“This is going to sound a bit off the wall, but that’s the best England have tried to play,” the former fullback said.

“The ambition that they showed, the running lines, the phase play, it was really, really good tonight. The best I’ve seen from them in a long time.

“Their skill execution was absolutely atrocious. That’s the reason they lost the game. The amount of times they turned the ball over and handed the ball back to Scotland was atrocious.

“It’s pass handling. All these players can pass a ball, they can catch a ball. It’s something that they can get right. That’s why I’m saying I’m encouraged by the ambition.

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Former Ulster outside back Andrew Trimble said it was a case of “beware of what you wish for” from England.

The grass isn’t always greener if you can’t water the lawn. Based on the Calcutta Cup loss, it appears that England can’t back up intent with ability and therefore should stop trying.

“It’s a strangle angle but I 100 per cent see what you mean, they tried, they had the intention of playing more rugby,” Trimble said.

“But be careful what you wish for. Everybody, everywhere has been saying this English side is capable of playing more rugby.

“Well maybe they’ve proved tonight they are not capable. When they are at their best, when they are ahead, they put you under pressure through the kicking game, defence. Make you chase the game.

“Scotland did to them what they’ve been doing to everyone for the last year. Maybe us purists should stop trying to get some rugby out of them.”

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Alex 269 days ago

Why did we need Ben Smith to write this? I thought this guy did analysis? Kind of thing you read on any standard news site.

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Patrick 270 days ago

Can’t deny how poor england have been and continue to be and there needs to be a serious revamp at who deserves to play rather than picking someone because of who they are

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Tom 270 days ago

These players are capable of running, passing, catching. They've been playing rugby since they were little kids. To imply that the players are incapable of playing rugby is ridiculous especially when. Trimble then claims that Northampton are better than England. Have you seen Northampton play? Yes, they're full of English players who are running, passing and catching and some of them are in this England team! The problem is, this is not the environment for them to blossom. If you brought in Gregor Townsend, Andy Farrell, Stuart Lancaster or Scott Robertson do you think we'd see such a lack of cohesion in attack and so many basic errors? The players aren't the issue. We've got a heavily stats based coaching team who have built their club successes on kicking and mauling now asking their players to do something totally alien.

Scotland have been successful because Gregor Townsend has a strong personality and their players understand what he wants from them. They're going to throw caution to the wind, leave everything on the pitch and if they make mistakes with the right intent they will be supported. England don't seem to have a clue what they want to do.

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Chris 270 days ago

Is it any wonder the Skills have deterioted when you realise that Kevin Sinfield is in charge of Skills?
Add to that the sterile attack borne from Richard Wigglesworth and the fact that we are copying another countries defence it starts to make you think that the coaching appointments are flawed. Time for Borthwick to go and being in someone who can revolutionise England's game not just try to replicate a minor success at club rugby?

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Red and White Dynamight 270 days ago

England were, are, very poor. As they were at the RWC and yet could have easily contested another Final. They’ll get minced by Ireland.

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Alexander 270 days ago

Unfortunately, I have to agree. I have no idea how we've been saying this for the past 5 years, but here we are: we're still waiting for this England team to spark. Yes, the talent is spread amongst a number of clubs, but still, at some stage something surely has to click.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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