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'There is a little part of me': NRL star Nathan Cleary on the thought of a code switch

Nathan Cleary of the Panthers in a Wallabies jersey. (Original photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

Two-time Premiership winner and NSW Blues halfback Nathan Cleary has shared his thoughts openly on rugby union and what appeals to him about the other code.

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The Penrith Panthers star inked a five-year deal with his club which runs until the end of 2027 which rules out any potential code switch any time soon, but he revealed that a part of him likes the idea.

The appeal of rugby union is the ‘global stage’ with the ability to shine in a World Cup, much like how Australia’s Maltidas recently captured the nation’s attention at home.

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The 2027 Rugby World Cup is to be hosted in Australia which ‘excited’ the 25-year-old playmaker.

“It does for sure,” Cleary told Isaac John on the Sporting News/YKTY Ebbs and Flows podcast.

“I think that’s the exciting part of union, it is on that global stage.

“If you were to do it for Australia, it would be such a big thing because Australia has sort of neglected union for a while now and it hasn’t been a massive thing.

“I think that part of it is an exciting prospect, but league is all I have known and loved and it has been a passion for me.

“I couldn’t see myself doing it, but there is a little part of me that thinks it would be cool to try it out.”

Cleary explained that his personality drives him to be exceptional at what he is committed to, so any switch to rugby union would involve knowing the game ‘inside-out’.

“If I was to try it, I would 100 per cent have to be all-in, I wouldn’t just be doing it for the thought of having success or wanting that global status,” he said.

“It would be such a process thing . It would take a lot of hard work, like I’d just have to know the game inside-out before I even felt confident pulling on an Australian jersey.

“I wouldn’t just want it because of what I’ve done in league.”

However, Cleary was adament his time in rugby league isn’t finishing any time soon as he prepares to chase three consecutive Premiership titles in the NRL.

He believes there is ‘so much more’ to do in the NRL which has his full commitment at the moment.

“I still feel like there’s still so much more for me to do in rugby league… it’s just a journey and I feel like I’m honestly just getting started,” he said.

“You can have all the achievements along the way, but you know within yourself what you can get out of your talent and what you’ve put in.”

Whilst the door sounds shut for Cleary, after being publicly called out by Eddie Jones as a target, Rabbitohs star Cam Murray re-signed with his NRL club.

Murray announced he had locked in a five-year deal with the Rabbitohs until 2028 and called the speculation around a rugby union switch “annoying” after he never heard anything from Rugby Australia.

 

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Cooper 448 days ago

Going to Rugby union?

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Cooper 448 days ago

Going out NRL?

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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