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There's only one way Ireland can grab rankings top spot from Boks

Ireland players, from left, Craig Casey, Jack Crowley and Dan Sheehan during the national anthems before the first test between South Africa and Ireland at Loftus Versfeld Stadium in Pretoria, South Africa. (Photo By Brendan Moran/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

Ireland’s rugby team faces a formidable task this weekend as they seek to regain the top spot in the World Rugby Men’s Rankings from reigning world champions South Africa.

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Last weekend, South Africa narrowly edged out Ireland in Pretoria with a 27-20 win, solidifying their position at the top of the rankings.

To wrestle back the No.1 spot – which they haven’t held since last year’s Rugby World Cup – Ireland must secure a victory against the Springboks by more than 15 points in their second Test in Durban.

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Ireland head coach Andy Farrell on his team’s work-ons from that first Test against the Boks

Ireland head coach Andy Farrell admitted that he was disappointed with his side’s overall performance at Loftus and he is expecting a big reaction from his players in Durban.

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Ireland head coach Andy Farrell on his team’s work-ons from that first Test against the Boks

Ireland head coach Andy Farrell admitted that he was disappointed with his side’s overall performance at Loftus and he is expecting a big reaction from his players in Durban.

Anything less will leave them trailing by 0.99 rating points.

A defeat would drop Ireland to third, with New Zealand moving up to second if they secure a win against Steve Borthwick’s England in Eden Park.

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South Africa could extend their lead at the top of the rankings depending on the margin of victory and the outcome of the New Zealand vs. England match.

Meanwhile, Ireland’s ranking will not fall below third as France cannot accumulate enough points, even with a maximum gain of 0.70 rating points from a win against Argentina.

France recently secured a 43-28 victory over Uruguay, but the match did not affect their rating due to the significant points difference between the teams.

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If France loses to Argentina and England beats New Zealand, England could replace France at fourth in the rankings.

Victory by more than 15 points for England will see them jump to third and will – if France and Argentina draw in Buenos Aires – condemn the All Blacks to a record-equalling low of fifth.

In other matches, Scotland, currently sixth, will not improve their ranking with a win over the USA due to the points differential. However, Argentina could overtake Scotland if they beat France and Scotland loses to the USA.

If Scotland’s match with the Eagles ends in a draw, Argentina would need a 15-point victory over France to climb to sixth.

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Eighth placed Australia could be replaced by Italy if the latter wins against Tonga by more than 15 points, matching their highest historical ranking.

Wales – having dropped out of the top 10 for the first time – could quickly return by beating Australia, which would push the Wallabies to an all-time low of 11th.

Wales will not drop below 11th even if they lose.

Fiji – in 10th place – will remain there as they are not playing this weekend. However, they could gain a place if Tonga defeats Italy by more than 15 points. Japan – currently 12th – could be overtaken if they lose to Georgia and Samoa beats Spain.

Georgia could also move up with a victory over Japan, depending on other results.

Portugal, ranked 16th, can only improve their ranking with a win over Namibia, combined with a significant loss for Tonga against Italy. Namibia could gain up to 2.50 rating points with a 15 point victory over Portugal, depending on other match outcomes.

The USA could rise at least one place with a win against Scotland, potentially more if margins and other results favour them. Spain’s match against Samoa could also affect their ranking, dependent on the victory margin and the USA’s result against Scotland.

Romania could see a ranking rise with a 15-point win over Canada, if Spain also loses.

Additionally, rating points are at stake in matches involving teams outside the top 20, such as Chile versus Belgium and Paraguay versus Hong Kong China, which could lead to minor ranking adjustments.

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Bull Shark 162 days ago

I for one really want to see Ireland drop to number three in the world after today.

Just so I can see what it looks like for the best team in the world to be ranked third in the world. Unprecedented.

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KiwiSteve 162 days ago

Irish props boring in from the side of scrum. So frequent the refs ping them when they don’t do it. That’s how they will win the world cup.

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Flankly 163 days ago

“There's only one way Ireland can grab rankings top spot from Boks”

Let me guess: Cheating at rucks? No?

I guess they tried that one last time, and the ref let them away with it. But it was not enough. Maybe taking out some players, like Leinster did to Le Roux and almost achieved with Goosen? That was unpleasant, but did not win the game for Leinster.

I know it is a crazy idea, but what if they just played within the rules and just tried to outplay the Boks. You know, like give up on the cheating thing and just try to play well? It’s nuts, but maybe there is the germ of a good idea in that wacko thought.

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Turlough 163 days ago

We get a few TMO calls and cancel the Xmas presents to SA in Pretoria the score could have been 31-13.

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Vellies 163 days ago

Nothing is impossible… this is a strong starting Irish team (the forward 8 at least - better so than last week with POM on the bench). But not a great bench… going to be a great test match!!!

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JW 26 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I had a look at the wiki article again, it's all terribly old data (not that I'd see reason for much change in the case of SA).

Number Of Clubs:

1526

Registered+Unregistered Players:

651146

Number of Referees:

3460

Pre-teen Male Players:

320842

Pre-teen Female Player:

4522

Teen Male Player:

199213

Teen Female Player:

4906

Senior Male Player:

113174

Senior Female Player:

8489

Total Male Player:

633229

Total Female Player:

17917


So looking for something new as were more concerned with adults specifically, so I had a look at their EOY Financial Review.

The total number of clubs remains consistent, with a marginal increase of 1% from 1,161 to 1,167. 8.1.

A comparative analysis of verified data for 2022 and 2023 highlights a marginal decline of 1% in the number of female players, declining from 6,801 to 6,723. Additionally, the total number of players demonstrates an 8% decrease, dropping from 96,172 to 88,828.

So 80k+ adult males (down from 113k), but I'm not really sure when youth are involved with SAn clubs, or if that data is for some reason not being referenced/included. 300k male students however (200k in old wiki data).


https://resources.world.rugby/worldrugby/document/2020/07/28/212ed9cf-cd61-4fa3-b9d4-9f0d5fb61116/P56-57-Participation-Map_v3.pdf has France at 250k registered but https://presse-europe1-fr.translate.goog/exclu-europe-1-le-top-10-des-sports-les-plus-pratiques-en-france-en-2022/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp has them back up at 300k registered.


The French number likely Students + Club, but everyone collects data different I reckon. In that WR pdf for instance a lot of the major nations have a heavily registered setup, were as a nation like England can penetrate into a lot more schools to run camps and include them in the reach of rugby. For instance the SARU release says only 29% of schools are reached by proper rugby programs, where as the 2million English number would be through a much much higer penetration I'd imagine. Which is thanks to schools having the ability to involve themselves in programs more than anything.


In any case, I don't think you need to be concerned with the numbers, whether they are 300 or 88k, there is obviously a big enough following for their pro scenes already to have enough quality players for a 10/12 team competition. They appear ibgger than France but I don't really by the lower English numbers going around.

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