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'They are tough, nuggety, relentless and ruthless in all areas of the game of rugby' - Kiwi stars dispel the myth about Wallabies not having 'hard men'

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Wallabies forwards Taniela Tupou & Lukhan Salakaia-Loto were pressed during their mid-week media conference on comments from the New Zealand media following the loss at Eden Park that the Wallabies didn’t ‘do genuine hard men’.

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The two Reds players downplayed the accusation, adding they are focused on trying to win back the Bledisloe Cup and that they are done with the talk. Tupou, in particular, was accused of being ‘nowhere near as tough as he thought’.

“It doesn’t really matter what they say to us, to be honest,” Tupou said. “They don’t know what’s going on here in camp. If that’s what they think, so be it. We’re trying to focus on us. Trying to better ourselves for the next game.

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Blues hooker James Parsons and Crusaders halfback Bryn Hall discussed the comments on the latest episode of the Aotearoa Rugby Pod.

“For me, that is going to be posted on a dressing room wall and used as motivation for the Wallabies. There is no bigger shot across the bowel than that,” Parsons warned.

“You’ve said it, Hooper… Hanigan… Slipper… Hooper’s now a 100 [tests], Slipper is close to 100 if not already there… what’s the definition of ‘hard man’ in this article? I don’t know what it is, but those players I’ve played against and they are tough, nuggety, relentless and ruthless in all areas of the game of rugby.

“I don’t know if I even want to give it air time because I just don’t think it warrants it. I think it is to get a click, personally.”

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Parsons and Hall added that any team coached by Dave Rennie is going to have a standard of toughness that is a non-negotiable by the former Chiefs coach, and the comments will only inflame motivation within the Wallabies camp.

“It will be up there in that team room, no doubt, especially with a guy like Dave Rennie as coach,” Hall said.

“It will be there Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,” Parsons added.

Bryn Hall also highlighted the intangibles of captain Michael Hooper that definitely meets the definition of a hard man.

“I’m going to use Michael Hooper as an example, if we are going to use the definition of a hard man, that guy right there, the amount of times I’ve seen him impose his will, his tenacity and his courage into a team. That’s the definition of a hard man in my eyes.

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“I think if you are looking around ‘being niggly’ and that, Jerome Kaino never did that,” Hall said,

“Would you say Pete Samu is soft? Exactly.”

Host Ross Karl asked the panel whether the comments were more directed at the ‘tough guy’ enforcer-type of hard man who likes to antagonise and pick fights, rather than the type who works hard and puts his body on the line. Karl pointed to the likes of Dane Coles who was involved in the push and shove at the start of Bledisloe 2.

“Well Tupou was the one who bowled him over about five metres backwards before that, so they definitely brought it,” Parsons said, “and you saw fifteen men from each side come in.”

“I think just because of the result, it’s been taken way out of context.”

Listen to the full episode of the Aotearoa Rugby Pod below:

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Smith generally isn't well connected to his forward pods; doesn't do a great job of distributing to those around him; and has inferior positional and contestable kicking games than Ford and Fin.


When England have had success over the past few years, its been either through (i) defensive rugby backed up with smart tactical kicking or (ii) high possession attacking phase play based on quick ruck ball. George Ford was key to the implementation of (i) in the RWC, and in the 6N win over Wales, and to the implementation of (ii) in the 6N games against Ireland and France. Smith did great at (ii) when running at tired defenders at the end of the Ireland match, but has never successfully implemented that gameplan from the start of a test because he doesn't distribute or support his forwards enough to create consistent fast ball and build attacks over multiple phases. Instead, his introduction to the starting side has resulted in much more playmaking responsibilities being forced onto whoever plays 9. Alex Mitchell copes ok with that, but I think he looks better with a more involved playmaking 10 outside him, and it really isn't a gameplan that works for JVP or Spencer. As a result of that the outside backs and centres have barely touched the ball when Smith has been at 10.


This might not have been too much of a disaster, as England have seemed to be moving slightly towards the sort of attacking gameplan that France played under Labit and Quins play (I think this was especially their approach when they won the league a few years ago - but its still a part of their play now), which is based on kicking to create broken field rugby. This is (i) a sharp departure from the gameplans that have worked for England in the past few seasons; (ii) bears very little relation to the tactical approaches of the non-Quins players in the England team; and (iii) is an absolute disaster for the blitz defence, which is weak in transition. Unsurprisingly, it has coincided with a sharp decline in England's results.

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