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Ex-Wallabies’ bold predictions for ‘very beatable’ Ireland’s next Test

James Lowe reacts to Ireland's 23-13 loss to New Zealand in Dublin. Picture: PA.

Argentina made history during The Rugby Championship as they recorded wins over all three opposing teams for the first time. It was a special achievement, and they may have another reason to celebrate an incredible year after another blockbuster Test this weekend.

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Former Wallabies Cameron Shepherd and Tim Horan have both predicted Argentina to upset Ireland at Dublin’s Aviva Stadium. Los Pumas have lost the last three Tests between the sides, with their last win coming at the 2015 Rugby World Cup.

Ireland were on the wrong side of an annihilation that October evening in Cardiff as they went down 43-20 in the quarter-finals. While their quarter-final curse continued to strike at the next two World Cups, the Irish have still emerged as one of the leading nations in the sport.

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This time last week, Ireland were on top of World Rugby’s rankings, but they’ve since dropped back to third following a surprise 23-13 loss to New Zealand. Damian McKenzie and Will Jordan both got on the scoresheet as the All Blacks recorded a memorable win.

Shepherd has tipped the Southern Hemisphere’s dominance to continue up north, which spells more bad news for the Irish. The men in green will be desperate to bounce back in front of a packed house at the Aviva, but Argentina are by no means an easy team to beat.

“I think so, I think so. I think Argentina’s going to be very, very competitive against Ireland,” Shepherd said on Stan Sports’ Rugby Heaven. “I thought Ireland were disappointing. They need to really turn up this weekend.

“I don’t think the All Blacks did anything too special, they just moved the ball very well at depth into space, attacked them on the edge and that up-and-in defence that Ireland has been using.

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“They showed they’re very beatable, even in Ireland.”

Ireland opened the scoring against New Zealand in the seventh minute, with flyhalf Jack Crowley converting an early penalty goal. But it was all the visitors from there as McKenzie slotted three unanswered penalties of his own, but then the match’s momentum swung.

Jordie Barrett was sent to the sin bin following a high shot on Garry Ringrose. Ireland scored the next 10 points without reply, which included a seemingly decisive score to backrower Josh van der Flier about two minutes into the second half.

But it was all one-way traffic from there as McKenzie slotted another three penalty goals, Jordan crossed for another try against Ireland, and the All Blacks’ defensive wall stood tall. It was a historic night as New Zealand registered their first win over Ireland in Dublin since 2016.

Also in the Autumn Nations Series, Argentina took on Italy at Stadio Friuli and left with a statement win on the road. The visitors scored the first 17 points of the contest before a yellow card to Juan Martin Gonzalez brought the Alluri back into the contest.

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Italy scored 13 unanswered points to make a game of it, but once Argentina got going again there was no stopping them. They added 17 points to their score in as many minutes, and ended up scoring another two tries later in the Test to round out a stunning 50-18 win.

Following wins over the All Blacks in New Zealand, a record win over the Wallabies in Santa Fe, and a one-point win over the world champion Springboks, Los Pumas have truly emerged as a force to be reckoned with – and they’ve got Ireland up next.

“This is their big one. I reckon Argentina, they’ve set themselves up their whole tour for this match and I think there is an upset coming here,” Horan explained.

“The way that Argentina, their forward pack and their backrow, they’re bigger bodies than Ireland.

“Ireland would have been really disappointed with the amount of penalties they gave away against the All Blacks last weekend.”

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HenryAU 37 days ago

Expect a big backlash from Ireland - Argies can't string together back to back wins, not against top tier. Bookies agree at 1.17 / 5.40 .. Ireland by plenty.

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JD 37 days ago

They'll win but not by plenty.

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Bull Shark 37 days ago

Im not an ex-Wallaby. But I have also boldly predicted that Argentina will win by 3 points.


The Argies played beautiful rugby last week - the question is, can they do it two weeks in a row?

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Ninjin 37 days ago

Argentina by 17

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JW 44 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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