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Thomas Ramos avoids citing for cheap shot on Marcus Smith

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Toulouse fly-half Thomas Ramos will face no action over an unsavoury attack on opposite man Marcus Smith as his side beat Harlequins 47-19 at the Stoop on Sunday.

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With just seconds to go in the Investec Champions Cup match in London, and with the result already sewn up, Smith found himself with the ball in his hands on his own try line with Ramos pursuing him. The Englishman was able to shrug off the tackle of the fellow fly-half before offloading to his teammate Oscar Beard. Ramos scrambled back to his feet to tackle Beard and in the ensuing ruck had a pop at Smith.

The Quins No10 was lying at the bottom of the ruck, whereupon Ramos flopped on him, seemingly dropping his elbow into his back, before pushing his head into the ground. Had his elbow not landed only on Smith’s back, this could have been a much more serious incident.

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It was a needless cheap shot, particularly in the context of the game, but the France international will face no further action after the EPCR announced their scheduled disciplinary hearings today. The only player to be cited after round two of the Champions Cup is Northampton Saints scrum-half Tom James, who will attend a hearing tomorrow via video after being accused of striking Toulon scrum-half Ben White with his head in the 70th minute their match at Franklin’s Gardens.

In the Challenge Cup, both Benetton’s Sebastian Negri and Castres’ Adrea Cocagi have been cited following their red cards at the weekend. Negri was dismissed by referee Eoghan Cross for a dangerous entry to a ruck against Perpignan, while Cocagi was shown red for a dangerous tackle against Edinburgh.

Cocagi’s hearing will take place this evening, while Negri’s will take place at a later date on a papers only basis.

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Simon 337 days ago

Let’s face it, any kind of shot on Smith is totally welcome and the harder the better!!

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Poorfour 338 days ago

I’m shocked at how badly the disciplinary and player safety aspects of this game have been handled.

I was at the ground and while Toulouse were good for the win, numerous high tackles were ignored (including a late, high shot on Smith that was shown on the big screen and the ref refused to look at), the yellow card decision looked very poor (the mitigation that it was a passive tackle seems to have come from the fact that the tackler got knocked down, when the replays clearly showed no wrap and him driving up into contact) and now both the failure of the TMO to spot this incident and the fact that it hasn’t been cited.

It’s setting an appalling precedent if deliberate, off the ball contact with the head can just be ignored.

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Jon 338 days ago

this is what happens when you make the SFs and FRA bows out in the QF # jealousy

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BigMaul 338 days ago

Dirty cheap shots. It won’t faze Smith but I’m amazed this isn’t dealt with by the citing process. Rugby sending out the wrong message.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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