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Tom Curry on 2019 video nasty: 'I have not watched the final back'

By PA
(Photo by Stu Forster/Getty Images)

Tom Curry has warned England to avoid repeating the British and Irish Lions’ tactical mistake of trying to fight fire with fire when they host South Africa on Saturday. The Springboks conclude the Autumn Nations Series at Twickenham in a rematch of the 2019 World Cup final when they emerged emphatic 32-12 winners with a victory founded on the dominance of their scrum.

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In reference to that dispiriting afternoon in Yokohama, Eddie Jones has spoken of the need to face South Africa with a different game plan when “fighting a George Foreman who can whack and whack and whack and whack”.

It was the approach taken by Warren Gatland’s Lions during the summer when the world champions clinched a 2-1 series victory. Curry started all three Tests and understands the risks attached to trying to meet South Africa’s strengths of a formidable set-piece, suffocating defence and a pinpoint kicking game head-on.

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“The Lions tour taught that you don’t play them at their own game – which is a lot of kicks and slowing the game down,” Curry said. “You probably shoot yourselves in the foot if you get in that cycle with them because that is what they want. We have to make sure we are clear about what we want to do.

“It’s relatively clear having seen them recently how they want to play. We have just got to make sure we’re confident in how we’re going to go against that. South Africa pride themselves on physicality but at the same time, there isn’t loads to hit when the ball is in the air.

“It’s about getting that balance right, making sure we are clear on our game plan and how we want to get it done. They wouldn’t be where they are if they weren’t good at what they do, but it’s going to be really exciting and we’re ready for the challenge.”

England failed to fire a shot in Yokohama two years ago as their glorious semi-final victory over New Zealand made way for a dismal no show against an inspired South Africa. It stands as one of the low points in the nation’s rugby history, but Curry is not motivated by a desire for England retribution. “For us, in terms of ‘revenge’, we have got a new team, they have a new team. It’s not about avenging anything, it’s about winning,” the Sale forward said.

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“I have not watched the final back and you don’t need to for emotions, either. This is one of the biggest games of the season. If that doesn’t get you up for it I don’t know what will.” Jones names his team on Thursday lunchtime for the climax to the autumn, with veteran flanker Courtney Lawes once again set to deputise as captain for Owen Farrell after the Saracens playmaker was ruled out by an ankle injury.

“I love Courtney. He has got a lot of respect within the squad. Whatever he says carries a lot of weight,” Curry said. “I’m excited the whole time, but Courtney brings that element of being calm, relaxed and the voice of reason. I love listening to him. He is very reasoned. He’s brilliant.”

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JW 4 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I had a look at the wiki article again, it's all terribly old data (not that I'd see reason for much change in the case of SA).

Number Of Clubs:

1526

Registered+Unregistered Players:

651146

Number of Referees:

3460

Pre-teen Male Players:

320842

Pre-teen Female Player:

4522

Teen Male Player:

199213

Teen Female Player:

4906

Senior Male Player:

113174

Senior Female Player:

8489

Total Male Player:

633229

Total Female Player:

17917


So looking for something new as were more concerned with adults specifically, so I had a look at their EOY Financial Review.

The total number of clubs remains consistent, with a marginal increase of 1% from 1,161 to 1,167. 8.1.

A comparative analysis of verified data for 2022 and 2023 highlights a marginal decline of 1% in the number of female players, declining from 6,801 to 6,723. Additionally, the total number of players demonstrates an 8% decrease, dropping from 96,172 to 88,828.

So 80k+ adult males (down from 113k), but I'm not really sure when youth are involved with SAn clubs, or if that data is for some reason not being referenced/included. 300k male students however (200k in old wiki data).


https://resources.world.rugby/worldrugby/document/2020/07/28/212ed9cf-cd61-4fa3-b9d4-9f0d5fb61116/P56-57-Participation-Map_v3.pdf has France at 250k registered but https://presse-europe1-fr.translate.goog/exclu-europe-1-le-top-10-des-sports-les-plus-pratiques-en-france-en-2022/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp has them back up at 300k registered.


The French number likely Students + Club, but everyone collects data different I reckon. In that WR pdf for instance a lot of the major nations have a heavily registered setup, were as a nation like England can penetrate into a lot more schools to run camps and include them in the reach of rugby. For instance the SARU release says only 29% of schools are reached by proper rugby programs, where as the 2million English number would be through a much much higer penetration I'd imagine. Which is thanks to schools having the ability to involve themselves in programs more than anything.


In any case, I don't think you need to be concerned with the numbers, whether they are 300 or 88k, there is obviously a big enough following for their pro scenes already to have enough quality players for a 10/12 team competition. They appear ibgger than France but I don't really by the lower English numbers going around.

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