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Tri Nations: All Blacks players ratings vs Pumas

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Argentina sent shock waves around the world by giving the All Blacks a punch in the guts loss 25-15. They dominated with huge physicality in defence and didn’t give the New Zealanders an inch.

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Coach Ian Foster had obviously primed his All Black charges to not back down to the Pumas after last week’s loss to the Wallabies but that backfired big time as the All Blacks gave away senseless penalties to be down 16-3 at halftime.

The All Blacks jersey has lost some lustre after this passion and skill lite outing and the Pumas played well beyond their world number 10 ranking; the best day in Argentinian rugby ever!

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It’s hard to remember an All Black team playing so poorly and not being able to change the plan.

Here’re the All Black player ratings.

1. Joe Moody – 4

Gave away scrum penalty at the 32nd minute to gift the Argies a 13 point lead at halftime. Didn’t stop trying with ball in hand.

2. Dane Coles – 2

It’s a thin line between niggle and stupidity and at 22 minutes the hooker slapped Puma number 8 Bruni after he got his entry wrong at ruck time. Off at 47.

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3. Tyrel Lomax – 5

One of the players who could hold his head high. Top tackler for ABs even though he was subbed at 57 minutes. The scrum penalty he conceded was unlucky judging by where his opposite’s bind was.

4. Patrick Tuipulotu – 3

One of the players found out in playing a more physical team than the Wallabies. Three carries for three metres, one lineout take, a spill in contact and a couple of missed tackles. Off at 69 and might be lucky to get a start for a while.

5. Sam Whitelock – 6     

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Didn’t stop trying, tracked back before the backs at 30 minutes to make two great denying tackles on Imhoff and Matera to save a try. Top line out takes and some good dabs with ball.

6. Shannon Frizell – 2

Won’t be compared to Kaino for a while after that display. Was like a boy against men, gave away a silly early penalty to give Argentina three points. Had his pocket and and handphone picked by Matera at 27 minutes and Kremer roughed him up like a rag doll at one stage. Off at 47.

7. Sam Cane – 4

Scored the first All Black first try, done at pace from line out. There’s no doubt he can lead from the front but the Kiwis seem to need someone to direct and lead strategy on-field.

8. Ardie Savea – 5

Found it hard to get yards early on but never stopped trying. With Sotutu creating space from the back of the scrum the selectors may have to make a big call around Savea, whether it’s pushing him to 6, 7 or bench.

9. Aaron Smith – 4

Got back to tackle Imhoff at 30 minutes, wasn’t effective as a distributor as ABs couldn’t get over gain line. Off 62.

10. Richie Mo’unga – 4

Like Smith, doesn’t look as good in neutral as when the pack are dominant. For some reason he made a lot of play to midfield runners expecting breaks but when they didn’t pay off there wasn’t any variety.

11. Caleb Clarke – 5.5

Really is a wonderful chaser at kick offs and high ball chases. He will realise now that test rugby is a little harder than his first spells on the field this season. At the final stanza he scored what will be the first of many tries for the ABs.

12. Jack Goodhue – 2

Strong run at 26 minutes for five metres on one carry. Goodhue maybe one of the casualties for this performance, there’s no doubt he’s a sensible player but so is Lienert-Brown; there can be only one of them there as a centre pairing. Off at 63.

13. Anton Lienert-Brown – 5.5

Never stopped probing and distributing. Needs a more dynamic partner in midfield.

14. Jordie Barrett – 3

Silly penalty given away on a late charge on the kicker. Dropped the ball on attack at 43 minutes. After seeing the evasiveness of the opposition wings (and even DMac) perhaps our selectors can think about a genuine wing for the 14 jersey. Off at 47.

15. Beauden Barrett – 4

Couldn’t work his magic even though he had opportunities from the back field. Will be under pressure for the fullback jersey for the next outing. Probably needs to take a larger leadership role in stoppages, he should be seeing a lot from the back.

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16. Codie Taylor – 4

On at 47. Poor lineout at 60 on attack, one of the least effective bench players.

17. Alex Hodgman – N/A

On too late perhaps at 73.

18. Nepo Laulala – 5

On at 57 good solid run at 59 and looked up for it.

19. Tupou Vaa’i – 6

On at 69 won a great first line out throw. Good run moments later, brought some energy!

20. Hoskins Sotutu – 5

On at 47. Big tackle on Kremer at 59 minutes and like a train off the back of the scrum at 63. A bad pass at 72 minutes blotted his copybook.

21. Brad Weber – 4

On at 62 and suffered the same woes as Smith with slightly more momentum.

22. Rieko Ioane – 4

On at 47, an error at 64 trying to get quick pass to Clarke which is what all the pundits remembered.

23. Damian McKenzie – 5

On at 63 and showed what someone with some footwork could do.

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Tom 4 hours ago
Will Bristol's daredevil 'Bears-ball' deliver the trophy they crave?

Also a Bristol fan and echo your sentiments.


I love watching Bristol but their approach will only get them so far I think. Exeter played like this when they first got promoted to the prem and had intermittent success, it wasn't until they wised up and played a more balanced game that they became a consistently top side.


I really want Bristol to continue playing this brand of rugby and I don't mind them running it from under their posts but I don't think they need to do it every single time. They need to be just a little bit more selective about when and where on the pitch they play. Every game they put themselves under so much needless pressure by turning the ball over under their posts trying to do kamikaze moves when it's not required. By all means run it from your goal line if there is a chance for a counter attack, we all want to see Bristol running in 100m tries from under their posts but I think until they learn when to do it and when to be pragmatic, they are unlikely to win the premiership.


Defense has been a real positive from Bristol, they've shown a lot of improvement there... And I will say that I think this kamikaze strategy they employ is a very good one for a struggling side and could be employed by Newcastle. It's seems to have turned around Gloucester's fortunes. The big advantage is even if you don't have the biggest and best players, what you have is cohesion. This is why Scotland keep battering England. England have better individuals but they look muddled as a team, trying to play a mixed strategy under coaches who lack charisma, the team has no identity. Scotland come out and give it full throttle from 1-15 even if they struggle against the top sides, sides like England and Wales who lack that identity drown under the relentless will and synergy of the Scots. If Newcastle did the same they could really surprise some people, I know the weather is bad up there but it hasn't bothered the Scots. Bristol can learn from Scotland too, Pat is on to something when he says the following but Scotland don't play test matches like headless chickens. They still play with the same level of clarity and ambition Bristol do but they are much better at picking their moments. They needed to go back to this mad game to get their cohesion back after a couple of seasons struggling but I hope they get a bit wiser from matches like Leinster and La Rochelle.


“If there’s clarity on what you’re trying to do as a team you can win anything.”

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