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John Barclay poses awkward Scotland question ahead of Boks showdown

Cheslin Kolbe of South Africa is tackled by Finn Russell of Scotland during the Rugby World Cup France 2023 match between South Africa and Scotland at Stade Velodrome on September 10, 2023 in Marseille, France. (Photo by Franco Arland/ Quality Sport Images/ Getty Images)

November will be a month of opportunities for Gregor Townsend and Scotland with the fixtures they have been dealt.

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Matches against Portugal and Chile, for the ‘A’ team, provide an opportunity to try new combinations and untested players. Visits from Fiji and Australia provide an opportunity to pull away from the teams trailing them in the world rankings. And a fixture against South Africa is the ultimate opportunity for Scotland to test themself against the best.

With only one of their November opponents being ranked above Scotland, the Springboks in second place, there is also an added weight of expectation this Autumn Nations Series.

For former captain John Barclay, three wins out of the four Tests is the bare minimum for his compatriots if they wish to enter December with their heads held high.

Speaking to RugbyPass recently, the 76-cap flanker dissected Scotland’s upcoming campaign, which begins with Fiji at Scottish Gas Murrayfield on Saturday.

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“You would expect Scotland to beat Fiji and Portugal, and I think given where Australia are you would expect them to beat Australia,” TNT Sports pundit Barclay said.

“The rankings are there for a reason, Scotland are ranked much higher than Australia at the moment and they’re playing at home, they’ve got more consistency in selection, they know who their team is, they know how they’re trying to play, they’re just further down that evolution as a team.

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“If they can beat South Africa or even come close to beating that South Africa team, I think people would potentially start to sit up. We’ve got to be somewhere near our best to beat them on any given day. Knock over South Africa, which is a massive if, I can’t think of a bigger win. I’m trying to think of the last win of that size for Scotland, it would be enormous.”

It was 14 years ago that Scotland – featuring Barclay in the back-row – registered their last win over the Springboks. Since then, they have lost eight on the spin, only coming within one score in one of those encounters.

Their last meeting was the opening match of the World Cup last year- an arm-wrestle of an affair which saw the eventual tournament winners pull away in the second half to win 18-3.

In what Barclay describes as a “funny game” in Marseille, the world saw that Scotland could go toe-to-toe with Rassie Erasmus’ side, but failed to do so for 80 minutes. That is not a problem reserved solely for Scotland though, rather any team facing the Springboks.

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“It was a funny game against South Africa,” he said.

“I think Damian de Allende, I saw on social media, said the most physical game they played the World Cup was against Scotland. It was attritional, and it was a war, but then there was a drop-off in performance in the second half. They were in the fight but you can’t keep just absorbing and defending, you can’t then go on and actually attack.

“That was Glasgow’s point in the [United Rugby Championship] final, they just kept going after them and they tried to flip it on its head.

“South Africa are formidable, try and find a weakness in there. Rugby is a pretty simple game, if you’re disciplined and you’ve got some serious power, you’ve got an amazing set piece, it’s a challenge to come up against that. Throw in how they’re evolving, the way they’re playing under Tony Brown, they’re starting to be more expansive, experimental.

“Will last year be on their minds? Maybe a little bit but I think that so much rugby has happened since then. So they may look at it from a mindset point of view and where the opportunities lie, but South Africa have changed as well.”

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Barclay is right, a lot has changed since last year’s meeting. Scotland now boasts the URC champions in Glasgow Warriors, who triumphed over South Africa’s Bulls at a veritable fortress in Loftus Versfeld in the final in June.

While the former Edinburgh and Glasgow flanker concedes that the “Bulls aren’t South Africa, Glasgow aren’t Scotland”, there was enough in that victory in Pretoria to give hope to the national team and at least provide the scaffolding in how they might build a gameplan to topple the reigning world champions.

“I look at the way that the Glasgow team did that,” the 38-year-old said. “They beat Munster the week before, then had to travel South Africa at altitude against – look at the team they’ve got, the power they’ve got. People always say you can’t beat the physical level. That Glasgow team showed they can beat them in other ways. Glasgow have this amazing mindset to just keep going after teams, keep going after them and keep playing, and they came back from behind that game.

“So I think the guys in that team are probably the backbone of the Scotland team and then you add in Finn Russell, Ben White, Blair Kinghorn, who are coming over from Toulouse who have won the Champions Cup and the league, you’ve got Bath who were in the Premiership final and Finn’s name goes before him.

“There should be a lot of confidence in this, but there should also be a lot of frustration, and how they use that frustration from last year and the World Cup to say ‘how do we take a hold of this?’ I don’t have the answer to that. How do they take hold of this and actually push the team to that next level is the big question that everyone’s been asking about Scotland for a number of years. How do they finally take that last step to be real contenders?”

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Another change in Scottish rugby over the last year is Sione Tuipulotu’s appointment as captain, a decision that has gone down well with Barclay.

“I’m a massive fan of him as a player, as a person,” Barclay added.

“I see him at Glasgow, bump into him before games, he’s a ball of energy. He is not the sole reason Glasgow won that championship, but he’s a huge part of why they did. He is the emotional driver of the team. He’s such a smart rugby player, the way he plays the game, everything goes through him at Glasgow. He’s taking on that responsibility.

“I think the conversation with Franco Smith was ‘how can I do more for the team?’ Whether that’s from a playing point of view, or leadership, and he’s taken that on and he’s got better and better.

“Leadership and captaincy can sometimes be a bit of a burden for someone, you see that in football and rugby, some don’t like and they don’t want to do it. He’s someone that seems to grow arms and legs the more responsibility he’s given.

“So, I think it makes sense, if he’s not the first name on the teamsheet, he’s not far off. I always say you want a captain, who says give me the ball and come with me kind of approach. He can be that player, where things are hard, you see at Glasgow, he makes good decisions, whether it’s carrying the ball defensively. I think he’s right in the conversation for the Lions tour.”

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Flankly 19 days ago

Folks in the NH are under-estimating NZ and Australia. Both are on the way up, with great coaches and good players.


Expect some surprises this November. And expect the NZ/Aus challenge to increase as we head towards the RWC.

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DP 19 days ago

NZ will always be a threat, they’ve got the players but depth is an issue in that tight five. Australia aren’t going to spring any surprises anytime soon..

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RedWarrior 20 days ago

Scotland must beat Fiji and Australia. I don't agree that the rankings for Australis necessarily reflect where they are. They got their ranking torpedoed in the short Jones tenure. Schmidt is getting them going. They will contend with Scotland. With 3 out of the top 5 global teams in the six nations Scotland cannot lose ground to teams close to them in rankings. They must be in the top 6 by the end of 2025 to be in the vital first seeding band when the draw happens, avoiding the big 5 till the quarters.

Otherwise they will kept getting spat out by the World Cup draw, this is a chance to break the cycle but they must start getting results.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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