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'Underdogs': Why the Hurricanes aren't the real deal ahead of Chiefs clash

Du'Plessis Kirifi of the Hurricanes looks on during the round seven Super Rugby Pacific match between Highlanders and Hurricanes at Forsyth Barr Stadium, on April 08, 2023, in Dunedin, New Zealand. (Photo by Joe Allison/Getty Images)

The Hurricanes are top of the Super Rugby Pacific table but former All Black No 8 Steven Bates does not think they are the real deal yet ahead of a crunch match with the Chiefs.

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They moved to 6-1 after the first seven rounds after beating the Highlanders in Dunedin 29-14 off the back of another impressive performance by halfback Cam Roigard.

But the undefeated Chiefs, who have a game in hand after their bye round, deserve to be considered Super Rugby’s best team according to Bates after a stronger schedule.

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The Waikato-based franchise has knocked off the Crusaders, Blues and Highlanders already and are looking for a clean sweep of the four other Kiwi sides.

“I do believe they’ve got a hell of a challenge this week in the Chiefs,” Steven Bates told Sky Sport NZ’s The Breakdown.

“The Chiefs are the form team, I reckon the Brumbies are there or thereabouts, but what I will say about the Canes is I believe they will quite like that.

“They’ll go into the game this weekend as underdogs even though they are top of the table.

“I think they like that edge about what they are doing, that little chip on the shoulder.”

The former All Black loose forward said that the Hurricanes have benefitted from an easier schedule which has seen wins over four Aussie sides; the Melbourne Rebels, Waratahs, the Western Force, and the Queensland Reds.

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They beat the Highlanders over the weekend, who are New Zealand’s worst franchise by some distance this season, but lost at home 25-13 to the Blues in their toughest encounter.

“But if I was a betting person I would go the Chiefs way, but what they’ve [Hurricanes] have done is pretty impressive,” Bates said.

“Through no fault of their own, they’ve had a nice run into the season. Well done to them, they can only beat the teams in front of them.”

Former All Black Carlos Spencer, who was an assistant coach with the Hurricanes for two seasons until 2020, said that the side has improved in an area which has typically been an Achilles heel for the club.

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Spencer rated the current form of their midfield while he was impressed with the playmaking ability of left winger Salesi Rayasi.

“I think they are a much more rounded team now,” Spencer said.

“Up front around their set-piece, I think their tight five are now standing up but in the past they probably lacked that up front.

“Couple of guys in the midfield playing very well. We know what Jordie [Barrett] can do, Billy Proctor has been playing really well.

“Also Salesi [Rayasi] on the wing, with the stuff he’s creating.

“I just think all-round they’ve become a better side.”

Ex-All Black and Highlanders winger Jeff Wilson wasn’t sold on the Hurricanes after a beating a seriously undermanned Highlanders outfit who were missing their two key playmakers.

“There was no Aaron Smith and there was no Mitch Hunt, who was a late scratching for the Highlanders,” he said.

“The reality was, in this game [Highlanders vs Hurricanes], they were missing two players that they need to play well in every game.

“When they’ve played well, they’ve won. Those were two significant losses.

“The Highlanders hung in there but in the end they weren’t polished enough against a team that was playing well.”

The Chiefs have managed to beat the Hurricanes on home turf regularly, beating them eight times out of 22 clashes played in Hurricanes territory.

Clayton McMillan’s team picked up a one-point win in 2022 with a 30-29 victory at Sky Stadium extending their winning streak to three games over the Hurricanes.

The last Hurricanes win over the Chiefs came in 2020, a year in which they won all three clashes between the two sides.

 

 

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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