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'There aren’t many clubs in world rugby have a fan base that big'

Caelan Doris of Leinster after his side's victory in the United Rugby Championship match between Leinster and Munster at Croke Park in Dublin. (Photo By Seb Daly/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

Leinster Rugby remain the maximum men having secured their fourth successive bonus point victory on a record-breaking derby day at Croke Park.

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The early season pacesetters beat arch rivals Munster Rugby 26-12 in front of a crowd of 80,468 – the biggest ever in league history.

Spurred on by the huge attendance, they came flying out of the blocks, crossing three times inside the opening 13 minutes and had the four-try bonus point in the bag by half-time.

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    One of those early touchdowns came from No 8 Caelan Doris who led by example as skipper with a Player of the Match performance.

    Reflecting on the occasion, he said: “It’s incredible. It was an unbelievable atmosphere. It’s pretty unique having 80,000 filling out this place. There aren’t many clubs in world rugby have a fan base that big. So we massively appreciate them, we felt them out there.”

    United Rugby Championship

    P
    W
    L
    D
    PF
    PA
    PD
    BP T
    BP-7
    BP
    Total
    1
    Leinster
    4
    4
    0
    0
    20
    2
    Glasgow
    4
    3
    1
    0
    16
    3
    Lions
    3
    3
    0
    0
    14
    4
    Bulls
    3
    3
    0
    0
    14
    5
    Connacht
    4
    2
    2
    0
    13
    6
    Cardiff Rugby
    4
    2
    2
    0
    12
    7
    Munster
    4
    2
    2
    0
    11
    8
    Ulster
    4
    2
    2
    0
    10
    9
    Edinburgh
    4
    1
    3
    0
    8
    10
    Scarlets
    4
    1
    2
    1
    7
    11
    Dragons RFC
    4
    1
    3
    0
    7
    12
    Benetton
    4
    1
    2
    1
    7
    13
    Ospreys
    4
    1
    3
    0
    6
    14
    Sharks
    3
    1
    2
    0
    6
    15
    Zebre
    4
    1
    3
    0
    6
    16
    Stormers
    3
    1
    2
    0
    5

    The Irish international continued: “We had a fast start. We felt our fans behind us and wanted to put on a good show for them early on. I think we did that. We got two tries in the first 10 minutes.

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    “With the quality of Munster, we knew they would fight back and it was more of a battle in the second half definitely.”

    Leinster are four points clear at the top of the table, with champions Glasgow Warriors in second spot after a 33-3 bonus point victory over Zebre Parsma at Scotstoun.

    It’s another Irish derby for table-topping Leinster next weekend as they travel to Galway to take on Connacht.

    Second-placed Glasgow and Munster both begin two-week tours of South Africa as they head for the Sharks and Stormers respectively.

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    There are two games in Wales, with the Scarlets hosting the unbeaten Bulls and the Dragons entertaining Benetton, while the other Round 5 fixtures are Ulster v Ospreys, Zebre v Lions and Edinburgh v Cardiff.

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    DC000 161 days ago

    A fair number of those were also Munster supporters. But that's NH rugby. Where the supporters actually pay for match tickets and show up.


    Rather than just spewing 💩 online like the SH thickos.

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    Bull Shark 161 days ago

    I think there are a few clubs in world rugby with a bigger fanbase than Leinster. 🤷‍♂️

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    DC000 161 days ago

    Yeah. Look at the Saffa teams. They get dozens of people to attend for a massive mafch - maybe even 100 people on a great day. Most of them either family members or get free tickets.

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    PS 161 days ago

    So you disagree with Doris then?🧐 Many clubs can fill an 80 000 stadium for a league game?

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    Mzilikazi 25 minutes ago
    'Ulster, though no one wants to admit it, isn't much more than a development province right now.'

    “I’d love to know the relevant numbers of who comes into professionalism from a club, say as an adult, versus early means like say pathway programmes “


    Not sure where you would get that information, JW. But your question piqued my interest, and I looked at the background of some Ulster players. If you are interested/have the time, look at the Wiki site for Ulster rugby, and scroll down to the current squad, where you can then click on the individual players, and often there is good info. on their pathway to Ulster squad.


    Not many come in from the AIL teams directly. Robert Baloucoune came from Enniskillen into the Ulster setup, but that was after he played Sevens for Ireland. Big standout missed in his school years is Stuart McCloskey, who never played for an age group team, and it was only after he showed good form playing for AIL team Dungannon, that he was eventually added late to Ulster Academy.


    “I’m just thinking ahead. You know Ireland is going to come into the same predicament Aus is at where that next group of youngsters waiting to come into programmes get picked off by the French”


    That is not happening with top young players in Ireland. I can’t think of a single example of one that has gone to a French club, or to any other country. But as you say, it could happen in the future.


    What has happened to a limited extent is established Irish players moving offshore, but they are few. Jonathan Sexton had a spell with Racing in France…not very successful. Simon Zebo also went over to Racing. Trevor Brennan went to Toulouse, stayed there too, with his sons now playing in France, one at Toulouse, one at Toulon. And more recently the two tens, Joey Carbery to Bordueax, and Ben Healy to Edinburgh.


    “I see they’ve near completed a double round robin worth of games, does that mean theres not much left in their season?”


    The season finishes around mid April. Schools finish on St Patrick’s Day, 17 th Match. When I lived in Ireland, we had a few Sevens tournaments post season. But never as big a thing as in the Scottish Borders, where the short game was “invented”.

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    Poorfour 1 hour ago
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    So “it wasn’t foul play because it wasn’t foul play” is - to you - not only an acceptable answer but the only possible answer?


    I would hope that the definition of foul play is clear enough that they can say “that wasn’t foul play - even though it resulted in a serious injury - because although player A did not wrap with the right arm, he entered the ruck through the gate and from a legal angle at a legal height, and was supporting his own weight until player B entered the ruck behind him and pushed him onto player C’s leg” or “that wasn’t foul play although players D and E picked player F out of a ruck, tipped him upside down and dropped him on his shoulder because reasons.”


    Referees sometimes offer a clear explanation, especially when in discussion with the TMO, but they don’t always, especially for incidents that aren’t reviewed on field. It’s also a recognised flaw in the bunker system that there isn’t an explanation of the card decisions - I’d personally prefer the bunker to prepare a short package of the best angles and play back to the ref their reasoning, with the ref having the final say, like an enhanced TMO. It would cost a few more seconds, but would help the crowd to understand.


    Greater clarity carries with it risks - not least that if the subsequent feedback is at odds with the ref’s decision they run the risk of harassment on social media - but rugby is really struggling to show that it can manage these decisions consistently, and offering a clear explanation after the fact would help to ensure better consistency in officiating in future.

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