Northern Edition

Select Edition

Northern Northern
Southern Southern
Global Global
New Zealand New Zealand
France France

'Very, very strange decisions': Ex-Bok coach blames refs for Nienaber's record

Siya Kolisi captain of South Africa and Jacques Nienaber coach of South Africa hug after The Rugby Championship match between South Africa and Argentina at Hollywoodbets Kings Park on September 24, 2022 in Durban, South Africa. (Photo by Darren Stewart/Gallo Images/Getty Images)

Springboks head coach Jacques Nienaber will step down from the post at the end of this year’s Rugby World Cup after four seasons in the job.

ADVERTISEMENT

The former assistant under Erasmus took over in 2020 but his first Test in charge wasn’t until July 2021 after SARU pulled the Springboks out of all competition in 2020.

Nienaber’s Boks claimed the British & Irish Lions series 2-1 but went on a three-Test losing streak through the Rugby Championship to finish third in 2021.

The Springboks finished runners-up in the 2022 Championship behind the All Blacks after missing out on bonus points to Ian Foster’s team.

On the end-of-year-tour they suffered defeats to the top two ranked nations Ireland and France.

Former assistant Swys de Bruin defended Nienaber’s 61.5 per cent win record with the Springboks on SuperSport’s Final Whistle, calling the  record ‘subjective’ and claimed many of the Test matches were ‘trials’.

“Those stats are very subjective,” de Bruin claimed.

“You’ve got trial games, some games you need to win, that game we might not.”

The ex-Lions coach was prepared to draw comparisons with football managers, claiming a 60 per cent record in football is successful.

ADVERTISEMENT

Football club teams play nearly 40 games a season and a ‘draw’ is a far more common outcome, resulting in a lower overall win rate.

“I had an interesting look at top football guys. A 61 per cent win ratio is not too bad,” he said.

“If you win 60 per cent or more of your games, you are successful.

De Bruin also said the absence of ‘minor’ playing nations made it tough to have a higher win rate, and praised his work for orchestrating defeats of the All Blacks.

ADVERTISEMENT

“I remember 2018-19, we never played minor teams, there were no Canadas and Americas involved.

“You play the big boys game in, game out. That’s the different stat.

“If you look at what Jacque has done with Rassie, especially Jacques’ defence, we’ve beat the All Blacks.

“We drew with them away [in 2019], and beaten them away too.

“We’ve pumped the English in Bloem and Ellis Park [in 2018]. We went overseas we got Scotland, the French there.

“He’s done well in the right Tests.”

Under Erasmus the Springboks won one from four Tests against the All Blacks while Nienaber has improved on that mark with two from four.

Former Bok coach Nick Mallett sensationally claimed that the side only lost certain Tests due to calls that went against the side.

He suggested that the officials were not impartial by suggesting that they were not ‘absolutely fair’.

“I’ll add to that, there were a number of games last year we should have won, and we didn’t for some refereeing reasons,” Mallett claimed.

“Had the referees been absolutely fair, we would have ended up winning a couple of games.

“I still say in the games we played against France and Ireland last year, they were two great, great performances by the Springboks.

“We come on the wrong side of those performances because of some very, very strange decisions in the last 10 minutes.

“We get those two wins, suddenly it’s incredible, 18 wins out of 26, it looks very good.

“What about Australia away? When everyone agreed they should’ve been penalised 15 times more than they were.

“There are issues around the refereeing of our Springbok team last year that have impacted Jacques Nienaber’s results.”

 

 

 

ADVERTISEMENT

LIVE

{{item.title}}

Trending on RugbyPass

Comments

22 Comments
f
finn 563 days ago

SA are getting worse because their team is too old.

They are going to fall at the quarter finals at the world cup this year, and then immediately have to begin a complete rebuild. SA fans are in for at least 2 or 3 years of pain but will ultimately have to face facts that Nienaber will have handed over a poisoned chalice to to whoever takes over.

D
Donovan 563 days ago

South Africa always crying foul...Running out of excuses for their pathetic record as world champions..Every team plays under the same set of rules..Play the game as blown by the ref..They lost as a result of Rassie being the coach..Always pulling the string..Nienaber cannot make any decisions..Rassie appointed himself as coach..
😊

D
Dries 564 days ago

It is not all referees that undermine the Springboks. It is markedly those who are in the realm of the british crown. Either it is intuitively embedded in their colonial minds that renders it unthinkably that people from Africa can be better than the british or their pawns, or the ant SA refereeing is by design and decision that the Springboks are too abrisive and dominant for the anglophone sissy boys. Matches between any anglophone country and othher teams such as SA Argentina, France etc should not be refereed by an anglophone referee.

J
John 564 days ago

What a load of tripe. South Africa turning into the cry baby sooks of world rugby.

G
Guy 564 days ago

The only solution for SAs to stop complaining is to have their matches refereed by South African referees !

P
Paul 564 days ago

So my great "friend" watches SA rugby shows! Hopefully he can learn something.....
I don't know what is worse: Ben Smith posturing as a journalist or Nick Mallet's comment....?
Go Boks

i
isaac 564 days ago

Fiji, samoa, Tonga are always crying foul, and SA - world champions still want to play victim...love on

Load More Comments

Join free and tell us what you really think!

Sign up for free
ADVERTISEMENT

Latest Features

Comments on RugbyPass

J
JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

287 Go to comments
TRENDING
TRENDING Let's be real about these All Blacks Let's be real about these All Blacks
Search