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Victor Matfield responds to Rieko Ioane's 'Super Rugby title above a World Cup' remark

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All Blacks star Rieko Ioane made headlines following the Blues’ Super Rugby Pacific final win over the Chiefs last weekend by saying the Super Rugby title means more to him than a World Cup.

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The statement inevitably provoked a strong response online, with some fans suggesting the star centre was deflecting from his disappointment over the World Cup final loss in France last year.

However, the full quote from Ioane puts the conversation into context.

“I put a Super Rugby title above a World Cup, because of how much I love this city, how much I love this club, how much I’ve admired this club,” he told media after the final.

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The rugby world has been Ioane’s oyster since emerging as a teenage star. The now 27-year-old became the eighth youngest All Black debutant in 2016, running out for the first time against Italy at the age of 19.

Crediting his development as a player to the local system, Ioane’s comments can be seen as less World Cup snubbing and more pride in his region.

A former Super Rugby winner and 2007 world champion has since come out in partial agreement with Ioane.

Springbok great Victor Matfield responded to the All Black’s comments, reflecting on his time in the competition.

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“Ioane this week said a Super Rugby title means more to him than a World Cup,” Matfield began on SuperSport’s Final Whistle Present Side Entry.

“When we were playing in it and we had all our best players playing for South African franchises, New Zealand had all their best, Australia had all their best, it was by far the best competition in the world.

“I really believe it’s a tougher competition to win than a World Cup, because there you had to win 10 of our 12 games, then, you play against the best teams in the semi and the final, so you had to be at the top of your game for a very long time.

“In a World Cup, you probably need three good games. Even in the Champions Cup, it’s a top competition because of top teams, but you only have to play two, three good games.

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“Super Rugby, you were playing against 10 of the best teams in the world and you had to perform week in, and week out.

“I miss it a lot, but we’re in a good space as well now.”

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Matfield also shared his thoughts on the long-running debate over the Springboks leaving The Rugby Championship for the Six Nations, saying while there are undeniable benefits for the Springboks up north, it’s not worth leaving their southern hemisphere rivals.

“I would like to stay in the southern hemisphere. Financially, it would probably make more sense to go up north, but you have to play the All Blacks every year, you have to play Australia – yes, Australia are in a difficult time but they will bounce back, and they will be competitive again – and Argentina have shown they are a top six nation most of the time.

“For us, playing club rugby up north but staying in the south, I prefer it. I think playing the All Blacks, playing Australia, we need that as well because that is a different challenge.”

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Ben 139 days ago

As long as we don’t join the 6 Nations!!….. its a poor comp with maybe 2 good teams each year…..SA must Play club comps up North and let the NH pay our players and then play Rugby Champs later in the year - far better comp than 6 Nations anyway…. best of both worlds for SA and SA Players.

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Thomas 140 days ago

I’m a NH guy. My heritage is pure Euro as far as any DNA evidence goes, so there’s precisely zero amount of any sentimental attachment to the SH on my part.
That being said, The Rugby Championship is the best annual rugby championship. I love and watch the 6N, but have to laugh hard every time I hear that “greatest annual rugby tournament” self-aggrandizing label. It is not, and not by a long shot at that.
NZ-SA is the biggest, most prestigious rivalry in rugby union by a country mile, as those are the two historically best rugby international sides by a country mile.
There’s a grand total of ONE Bill Webb Ellis distributed among the 6N participants, and a a grand total of NINE among the TRC participants.
It is imperative, that SA never leave TRC, because that would mean the loss of the two best international rugby matches, that take place every season. The SH teams run with the ball more and kick less than the NH sides, and TRC rugby is more thrilling and entertaining to watch, than 6N rugby. Yes, TRC is often decided earlier on, whereas the 6N campaign is often a drama until the last day, but that one particular advantage doesn’t change the overall score.
I can understand the motivation of SA clubs to move north, but for the national union to move north would be a massive net loss for the sport of rugby union.

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Red and White Dynamight 140 days ago

Sth Africans/SARU just dont understand partner loyalty. NZR didnt ‘kick them out” of Super, SARU made noises about going up north for 2-3 years before they left. Then COVID happened and they took their opportunity. NZR has a long history of supporting Aus rugby but SARU is a different beast, zero loyalty. Boks would jump in to 6N in a minute if they could, they dont give a sh*t about SH/Rugby Championship. Cant see the tweedheads at 6N HQ allowing it but a few gold watches might sort it out.

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Barry 140 days ago

Please don't let them near the 6N!!! We don't need 10 man rugby.

They'd have us all kicking penalties from our own 22’s.

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Jasyn 141 days ago

Well in fairness, Rieko is a complete Muppet who rarely has anything intelligent to say. Doubt most Kiwis agree or even think he should be in All Blacks anymore. There on reputation alone.

So just ignore him.

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Jonty 141 days ago

I agree with Victor. We should not swap the Rugby Championship for the 6 Nations.

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SteveD 141 days ago

The Super Rugby was always very biased towards the antipodean teams so no wonder he loved it. The travelling was ridiculous. While I hear what Victor says about the RWC, it - like the soccer one - is the only real test of the best international teams. The W-E travel for the SA teams particularly was awful. Mind you the N-S isn't great for them at the moment with the useless Qatar Airways arrangements but hopefully that'll get fixed.

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Gert 141 days ago

Just another arrogant kiwi

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monty 141 days ago

Iv always admired Victor matfeild. Shear sportsmanship is a wholistic state of showing humility dignity and respect, Victor exemplifies this hugely. Loved his passion on and off the pitch. I’d also add this is apparent in all the guys that turn out for bokkie.

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matt 141 days ago

SA really has the best of both worlds now

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JW 13 minutes ago
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Yeah nar I pretty much agree with that sentiment, wasn't just about the lineout though.


Yeah, I think it's the future of SR, even TRC. Graham above just now posting about how good a night it was with a dbl header of ENGvSA and NZvFrance, and now I don't want to kick SA or Argentina out of TRC but it would be great if in this next of the woods 2 more top teams could come in to create more of these sort of nights (for rugby's appeal). Often Arg and SA and both travel here and you get those games but more often doesn't work out right.


Obviously a long way off but USA and Japan are the obvious two. First thing we need to do is get Eddie Jones kicked out of Japan so they can start improving again and then get a couple of US teams in SRP (even if one its just a US based and augmented Jaguares).


It will start off the whole conferences are crap debate again (which I will continue to argue vehemently against), but imagine a 6 team Pacific conference, Tokyo Sunwolves (drafted from Tokyo JRLO teams), Tokyo All Stars (made up of best remaining foreign players and overseas drafts), ALL Nihon (best of local non Tokyo based talent, inc China/Korea etc, with mainland Japan), a could of West Coast american franchises and perhaps a second self PI driven Hawai'i based team, or Jagaures. So I see a short NFL like 3 or 4 month comp as fitting best, maybe not even a full round, NZvAUSvPAC, all games taking place within a 6hr window. Model for NZ will definitely still require a competitive and funded NPC!


On the Crusaders, I liked last years ending with Grace on the bench (ovbiously form dependent but thats how it ended) and Lio-Willie at 8. I could have Blackadder trying to be a 7 but think balance will be used with him at 6 and Kellow as 7. Scott Barrett is an international 6 sized player. It is just NZ style/model that pushes him into the tight, I reckon he'd be a great loose player, and saders have Strange and Cahill as bigger players (plus that change could draw someone like Darry back). Same with Haig now, hes not grown yet but Barrett hight and been playing 6, now that the Highlanders have only chosen two locks he'll be playing lock, and that is going to change his growth trajectory massively, rather than seeing him grow like an International 6.

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Tom 30 minutes ago
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Interesting post. I realise that try was down to Marcus Smith not Slade, this is why I mentioned that England's attack is completely reliant on Smith working miracles. Just wanted to highlight that Slade's little touch was classy and most English players would have cocked it up. Earl has gas, he's very athletic but Underhill is nailed on at 7 in my eyes though. They both need to be on the pitch so we need a tall 6 or 8 to complement them which we have in CCS and potentially Ollie Chessum. We also have young Henry Pollock who may be the 7 by the world cup.


The whole attack needs an overhaul but Richard Wigglesworth our attack coach was a very limited scrum half who excelled at box kicking and had no running game. Spent most of his career with Saracens who mauled, defended and set pieced their way to victory.... Which might have been ok if Felix Jones hadn't quit and been replaced by a guy who coaches Oyonnax who have one of the worst defences in the French 2nd division. I'm not too emotionally invested in England right now because this coaching setup isn't capable of winning anything.


England had no attack when they were winning under Eddie either. They battered teams with huge dominant tackles and won from pressure. The last time England had any creativity in attack was the Stuart Lancaster/Mike Catt era. They played some fantastic attacking rugby but results were mediocre, lots of 2nd place finishes in the 6N although it felt like we were building something special until we got brutally dumped out of our home world cup in the pool stage.

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JW 1 hour ago
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As has been the way all year, and for all England's play I can remember. I missed a lot of the better years under Eddie though.


Lets have a look at the LQB for the last few games... 41% under 3 sec compared to 56% last week, 47% in the game you felt England best in against NZ, and 56 against Ireland.


That was my impression as well. Dunno if that is a lack of good counterattack ball from the D, forward dominance (Post Contact Meters stats reversed yesterday compared to that fast Ireland game), or some Borthwick scheme, but I think that has been highlighted as Englands best point of difference this year with their attack, more particularly how they target using it in certain areas. So depending on how you look at it, not necessarily the individual players.


You seem to be falling into the same trap as NZs supporters when it comes to Damien McKenzie. That play you highlight Slade in wasn't one of those LQB situations from memory, that was all on the brilliance of Smith. Sure, Slade did his job in that situation, but Smith far exceeded his (though I understand it was a move Sleightholme was calling for). But yeah, it's not always going to be on a platter from your 10 and NZ have been missing that Slade line, in your example, more often than not too. When you go back to Furbank and Feyi-Waboso returns you'll have that threat again. Just need to generate that ball, wait for some of these next Gen forwards to come through etc, the props and injured 6 coming back to the bench. I don't think you can put Earl back to 7, unless he spends the next two years speeding up (which might be good for him because he's getting beat by speed like he's not used to not having his own speed to react anymore).

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