"Listen, it was a jolly' - Neil de Kock on Sarries trips to the Bahamas

Borthwick's coaching setup consists of his mates. There is no one there to challenge him or bring ideas from outside of his own methodology. It's all very comfortable and never going to work.

When Marcus doesn't make a break or do something spectacular, none of the other backs create and there is no structure in place for them to do so. There's no deception, no runners coming back against the grain, no wingers/fullbacks coming into midfield... It's usually just Lawrence trucking it up or pass it down to the winger and try the same in the opposite direction until we get turned over.

Razor is 69% win ratio - heading to Italy. Assuming a win, leaves Razor 71% win ratio in first year, which lets face it is a PASS.

I am pleased to see we have seen some new guys have risen to the occassion - Sititi, Williams, Aumua, Lakai, and I class Roigard too (he had only played 6 tests before), some others we are still on fence Ratima, Darry, and Finau.

What scares me, is Razor's conservatism when it comes to teh game plan, and his insistance on continuing to play Reiko, Sevu and Beauden, as well as Jordan at 15 - while Will may like 15, he is not a worldclass 15, and I believe Love and Sullivan are stronger

I still think it was a mistake to play TJ in so many games too,

I hope Razor will give Perofeta a go at 10 against the Italians

When DuPont finally decides to leave the country and play elsewhere and win, then you can say the French are a good side.