Watch - Video purporting to reveal Bongi Mbonambi and Tom Curry incident emerges
A video that appears to reveal the audio from the Bongi Mbonambi and Tom Curry incident during the Rugby World Cup semi-final between South Africa and England has emerged online.
World Rugby is investigating an allegation made by Curry that he was racially abused by South Africa hooker Bongi Mbonambi in the first half of Saturday’s semi-final defeat.
Curry claimed to referee Ben O’Keeffe that he was called a “white c***” by Mbonambi and, after a complaint made by the Rugby Football Union, audio and video footage is being examined for evidence.
Now video of the incident is doing the rounds on X and a player can be heard shouting a phrase not dissimilar to what is being alleged.
Many Afrikaans Springboks supporters believe Mbonambi said ‘Wit kant’ or ‘wyd kant’ which loosely translates as ‘white side’ or ‘open side’ respectively, although other accounts suggest Mbonambi – who went to English-speaking private school St. Alban’s College – is not a speaker of the language.
Cape Saakie posted the video on X, which is being pored over by rugby fans eager to work out what exactly was said:
So this is seemingly where the incident takes place. Listen from around 8s onwards.
My advice would be to put earphones in and decide for yourself what you hear? pic.twitter.com/8Qo571qd4s
— Benetton Bandwagon (@CapeSaakie) October 23, 2023
Whether the audio on the clip is viewed as compelling evidence in either direction is very much anyone’s guess.
World Rugby was on Tuesday evening unable to provide any update on its investigation into the allegation made against Mbonambi but intends on completing the process as quickly as possibly.
“I haven’t discussed that [with him]. But to be straightforward and honest with you, he is a calm guy,” said assistant coach Daan Human was asked about the scandal today. “He is well spoken and I don’t want to actually go into it because we have a World Cup final in six days’ time. Like I said I am more concentrated on the forwards.
“I can tell you one thing, we have three hookers [including Deon Fourie and Marco van Staden] in the group. Three guys who are capable of playing hooker so we are very comfortable having three hookers. If you want to go into a final, you must have two hookers.”
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Clearly the supposed insult was not spoken in a whisper. Yet not one English player - and there were at least five within earshot - backed Curry up or gave evidence on his behalf at the enquiry. Don’t you English supporters think that’s a bit strange? Or if it did take place did his team mates not back him because he is universally unpopular and they agreed with the insult.
Whinging, whining, grumbling, complaining. A sense of entitlement that knows no bounds. No wonder everybody dislikes England. I don’t know when next England is due to play in South Africa, but if Curry is there, I wish him luck.
Any journalist worth his salt would soon discover that St Albans is in a VERY Afrikaans speaking city, Pretoria.
As an old boy of that school - I can attest that playing against local schools, you learnt the value of speaking Afrikaans …
C’mon Ian Cameron - grow a pair and retract this shite.
The reaction from Ben O'Keefe is curious, how would he feel if a similar comment was made about him? Would he expect an official to respond in the same way that he did?
You assume Bongi is guilty. You can’t know that, yet you rush to judgement. I’m amazed at your arrogance.
‘The subsequent World Rugby investigation were informed by Tom Curry that he had also been the victim of the same abuse, from the same player, in the autumn Test 2022. So Bongi has got away with it again.
Try looking at it from the point of view that Curry might have provoked Bongi. Given that England has a reputation for provoking, I’ll bet that’s exactly what happened. Bloody baby. Running to the ref.
… and they didnt investigate THEN?
Maybe they knew that it was a simple case of misunderstanding and a case of a snowflake stirring up a case of absolutely f-all …
Is this Englands new meme ala Suzi of the killer prawns?
i lost a game of rugger because big-bad boy over there called me a bad name in his own (different) language … boo hoo hoo
simple bollocks
Even if Bongi said white cunt (doubt it or think he meant the SA way) it wouldn’t make it racism or a racist act. It’s still an insult because cunt was used but just because a race descriptor is used isn’t by itself racist. Unless there’s context to suggest that the phrase was used to denigrate all people of a particular race, you can’t assume that. I just think it’s dumb to say that just because someone says that white guy or this black guy, it’s suddenly become racist. It would be racist if someone used a racial slur but just pointing out the race of an individual, doesn’t make it racist.
I have travelled every part of South Africa, North South, East, West, and whenever I encountered a black person I would always start in Afrikaans. I have never encountered any black who could not speak Afrikaans.
RP won’t report this because it doesn’t suit WR and Ben Smith’s agenda, but South Africa’s largest and most credible news organisation has just revealed some stunning facts about this case. It’s deeply deeply disturbing. Turns out, Curry’s complaint concerns something said by Bongi in the December 2022 game. Yes, you read that correctly. This means Curry’s attack on Bongi was premeditated and he knew EXACTLY what he was doing. This is so vile and disappointing, one can only be lost for words…. The fact that WR continues to “investigate” this farce, and have PR (its propaganda arm) cover for it in this regard, is shameful in a week leading up to the RWC.
It’s an ai-style article, with vague references to groups of people that say X or Y, and zero research or even critical thinking by the writer.
If there was a clear and obvious racial slur then deal with it. Otherwise assume innocence and move on.
This can’t be the thing most sensible people care about in a RWC final week?
So Bongi went to a private English-speaking school yet can't speak English. He's, allegedly, an international hooker yet he can't remotely throw straight. Presumably if he fell into a barrel of tits he'd come out sucking his thumb..
Bongi speaks perfect English
1. So does the opposition who they dont want to alert
2. All the guys around him were Afrikaans speakers
Why are you crying about it though?
You are so late with this Cameron🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think a black South African getting in trouble for a racial slur against a white Englishman is freakin’ hilarious.
I wouldn’t laugh if it was the other way around though, for reasons you can google yourself.
I think Tom Curry should just get on with his life. (And perhaps try to be less of a c word in the future so this doesn’t happen again).
Early SA settlers were Dutch, and the word kant in Dutch means side. Try asking your wife/girlfriend to tell you to choose her best side in Dutch.
Settlers is a lovely word for colonisers.
wit kant; swart kant; noger kant - who gives a flying f; I even heard our dominee who play's #8 for Amersfoort 2nd's frequently use the kant word - mostly aimed at Dwars van Rensburg who hates losing and always attack's from the kant giving away stupid penalties; so leave Bongi alone
This “incident” happened in the first half = 40 minutes of audio feeds yet its taking DAYS upon DAYS for this to be sorted out! Boks should boycott the final
“suggest Mbonambi – who went to English-speaking private school St. Alban’s College – is not a speaker of the language.”
Bongi is from Bethlehem… Rugbypass, are you insinuating that a black man from the Free State wouldn’t know how to speak Afrikaans unless a Private school educates them?
Looks like Rugbypass is a lot more racist with their inferences than Bongi will ever be…
This is normal male talk between males, probably an endearment.
Just Curry crying wolf and seeking attention.zzzzzzzz
This video only shows what Curry alleged were is the actual evidence. It would be great to hear from Bongni as to why this has been alleged media only taking Currys word. If it's true it needs to be delt with promptly and with out delay so that SA and NZ can focus on the final. Really interesting how NZ had a news conference and got dragged into the debate by the media. Rugby pass why don't you focus on the final that is this coming weekend and not last weeks game let the authorities deal with the alleged incident. Also why is the media not reporting on how Farrel verbally abused the ref when marched 10.
World rugby is looking into different off the ball exchange.
Has someone bothered to explain to the journo Afrikaans is taught as a second language in all schools and most South Africans are fluent in the language furthermore all communication in the springbok team during a match is in Afrikaans
Thats BS for starters. He knows English and its infact his first language. He can call anyone a C if he is so inclined to but putting WHITE in front of it makes it a racist comment.
All you can hear is an allegation from an England player! How sad is it that in World Cup final week we are not celebrating rugby, but instead going on a wild goose chase against the springboks. I hope this galvanises the team and brings out the best in them.
oh my word, Ian Cameron, got it, thanks for warning me, toss of an article, chop
If something is actually is made of this the can of worms that it would open could not be quantified. Every non native English speaking team ( 14 out of 20 teams) would have to scrutinises every word they use in their respective native tongues to make sure that what they say doesn’t sound remotely like a swear word to the fragile snowflakes.
‘van die kant’ = ‘from the side’ - & sounds just like the ‘C ‘ word in Afrikaans or English; .. but thanks for invigorating the kant viewpoint
Is Africann constantly changable? Ive seen 8 different versions now of what he said in Africaan. Only 1 version of English.
My God this is a moronic article. How can you write that “wit kant” “loosely translates" to “white side"...? It LITERALLY translates to white side. Wit=white, kant=side. There is not other way to translate it. Also, how can you be a rugby journalist and lend credence to the statement that because Bongi went to an English school he wouldn’t speak in Afrikaans on the field. The boks speak in Afrikaans because its a way to communicate without the opposition understanding. Even English people in SA understand Afrikaans…you think Pat Lambie didn’t speak in Afrikaans on the field because he went to Michaelhouse? Of course he did. Rugbypass needs to up their game in terms of employing journalists who actually know anything about the sport.
Or journalists who know ANYTHING about ANYTHING. This is what you get when you give a generation participation trophies…
It’s moronic but also very deliberate. RP now also owns R365. I thought Rassie was crazy, but there seems to be a clear anti-SA agenda at RP. This article confirms it.
Just imagine what they call you in isiZulu and isiXhosa.
Yoh yoh yoh. Qaphela.
The boks are going to have to watch their Ps and Qs this weekend against the Swart Kant.
Thanks for proving the charges correct. You just did what he did and he thought he was being a smarty arse. Is it a SA thing.
What does Wit Kut mean in Africann eh? Maybe thats what he is CLEARLY SAYING.
Certainly sounds that way for sure.
Well did cheeky wee Faf sling his WC Gold medal around Tommy’s neck once he got back to Sale four years ago.
Of course he speaks Afrikaans you idiots. He’d have studied it at school and spoken it in the Freestate ,all the time. How convenient for the boks that a word in afrikaans translates to “side” and sound like c**t. Let me guess ,the boks just made that up to cover their asses. Another genius move from Rassie. Another gem from R.P , do you imbeciles have poetic license to write crap???
We should start a petition that all English speaking teams then refrain from using the word “push”, since it sounds like “p0es”.
This is another RugbyPass article that splits the truth into malicious lies. Bongi comes from an Afrikaans region in South Africa, and historically, the Springbok team made their calls in Afrikaans to gain an advantage. No one batted an eye when Faf used the words “jou kant” to mean “your side” towards the end of the match. But I guess first-world xenophobia explodes when a third-world nation wipes the floor with its brightest and best! Regarding the recording - this is like a vicious episode of misheard song lyrics where the instigator wants the audience to hear what he says they should hear.
You're right this is clearly due to the fact England lost and wanting to try and help NZ to win, nothing more to it. Must be said Curry showed some incredible foresight by telling that to the ref during the game by already knowing the result.
If only they could show the same decorum and sensibility of Rassie.
Completely agreed. I’ve got a feeling this article was written by Ben Smith.
I can’t hear Jack Shit.
Move on.
I can only imagine a couple of sweaty palmed beady eyed WR officials scouring over the footage, giddy and breathless as they try to “find” “evidence” of racial abuse. Sir ! Sir ! Tally ho! Would you believe it, I found it Sir! He called him a massive P!
“although other accounts suggest Mbonambi – who went to English speaking private school St. Alban’s College – is not a speaker of the language.”
He grew up in Bethlehem in Easter Free State, which predominantly runs on the farming in the area (majority Afrikaans). He most probably had Afrikaans as first additional language in school, he’s been involved from 2008 at the Bulls - which is predominantly Afrikaans, been involved with Springboks from 2016, which is a large portion Afrikaans. Heck, even the Boks call most their set piece calls in Afrikaans, never mind team communication week in and week out. But I back the writer referencing other people here, Bongi surely can’t speak (even a bit) Afrikaans…
Completely agreed. I hate to say it, but the article is malicious. It’s common knowledge that Bongi is 100% fluent in Afrikaans.
The suggestion here by RugbyPass, or rather, the attempt by RP to lend credence to the idea that Bongi is not a speaker of Afrikaans, is either deliberate and laced with malice, or, journalistic malpractice. Bongi speaks fluent Afrikaans, born and bred Bethlehem, Vrystaat and it’s common knowledge that he calls plays in Afrikaans. There are also countless videos and interviews of Bongi speaking Afrikaans in that beautiful accent unique to black South Africans from the Free State. This is what feeds into Rassie’s narrative of a Rugbypass/WR vendetta against South Africa and the Springboks. Can’t blame them if this article is anything to judge by.
Wait a moment. Bongi was a stand in for Marx. Following Marx injury Rassie did not take up the option of calling in a quality hooker such as Dweba. He opted for Pollard and a never heard again, Am. Fourie is a stand in for a stand in, and is not reliable as exposed against Ireland. Bongi is not a quality hooker but is, by far, the best now in the SA 33. Without him they are well and truly stuffed.
Obvious you know diddly-squat about rugby, especially SA rugby.
You wish.
Nah. They’d be fine. After all, they’ve made it this far without a quality hooker. Obviously not important.
You seem to forget that Bongi has started most South African games in the past year. He is not only one of the best hookers and scrummagers in South Africa, but in the world! His quality is the reason for this reprehensible cheap shot by a thuggish English player.
Yes, without Bongi, the Boks are definitely stuffed. They’d be left with a 38 year old flanker as the starting hooker with another flanker as his back-up. What a remarkable turn of events for WR to be taking its time with this matter. Must be scouring all available footage to “find” evidence of a black south african racially “abusing” a privileged white man from England, the country that colonised and pillaged it for decades. Astounding! Not one sane person in South Africa will consider it “racial abuse” to be called a white “C.” What a joke!