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Video: The conversation that highlighted how Wayne Barnes remains one of the best refs around

(Photo by Dan Mullan/Getty Images)

Veteran referee Wayne Barnes was marked absent for the opening two restart rounds of the Gallagher Premiership after getting caught out by revised UK Government quarantine regulations while on holiday in Spain, but his commanding presence was to the fore in the Bank Holiday Monday 27-23 win by Wasps at Bath. 

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Having made his comeback in last Tuesday’s enjoyable top-of-the-table clash between Bristol and Exeter, a result that tipped the way of the Chiefs in the closing minutes, Barnes typified his experience with his handling of the ramifications of Wasps losing their replacement hooker Gabriel Oghre to first-half concussion just eight minutes after he had replaced injured starter Tommy Taylor. 

What transpired was the game went to uncontested scrums after Wasps prop Tom West opted not to switch to hooker with loosehead Simon McIntyre coming on as Oghre’s front row replacement. 

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The initial indication from the Wasps sideline was that scrums would remain contested, though, with West switching into the middle of the front row and competing.

However, rather than take the word of the sideline as gospel, Barnes went back onto the pitch and quizzed West, the Wasps loosehead, about whether he really was confident enough to fill in. 

The answer eventually was that he wasn’t and the match restarted with uncontested scrums. Here’s how the conversation at The Rec unfolded:   

Wayne Barnes: This will be your second hooker off?

Dave Bassett, Wasps manager: Yes. 

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WB: Do you have a replacement hooker or not?

DB: Yes. Tom West is happy and has scrummaged at hooker. More than happy to do that.

WB: So you’re happy to go contested scrum?

DB: Contested scrums. 

Barnes then returned to the middle of the pitch to speak with West.   

WB: If you can hook, you can hook and it will be contested scrums. They are telling me you’re a confident hooker. If you’re not confident I’ll order uncontested scrums… make a decision.

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Off mic, West gave his answer, saying no to switching to hooker and having contested scrums. This left Barnes to return to the sideline to resume his conversation with Bassett. 

WB: Okay, I’ve just checked with your player out of safety. He’s told me he is not confident to hook so it is uncontested scrums but you have to bring a player on in the front row. Player safety is paramount and he’s told me he is not confident to scrummage. 

Barnes then returned to the pitch and explained to the packs what will happen. 

WB: It is uncontested scrums gentlemen, but they [Wasps] will go to three in the front row who has played front row. 

Usually, if a team has injuries and can’t contest scrums, they must forfeit a player and play out the match with 14. However, the regulation is different when a player has been concussed, which allowed Wasps to continue to have 15 players despite uncontested scrums. 

Wasps coach Lee Blackett said afterwards: “At first, he [West] said he was (prepared to play hooker) and I think the realisation then set in.”

BT Sport pundit Ben Key, the 2003 England World Cup winner who was working at the game, later added: “When Wayne first went up to him [West], he said yeah I’ll give it a go. No, you won’t give it a go. Can you do it or not? 

“But the brilliant thing about that is out of shot you can see him talking to someone. I bet it was the second rows going we don’t want scrums. We want to rest so we can run around. Just make sure you say no. 

“I have played in a game with uncontested scrums. As a front-five forward you have got so much more energy than you usually have.

“He hasn’t played there for three years and it’s probably is the right thing to do but it would have been interesting if Wayne Barnes had gone and said, as is sometimes the case with non-head injuries, you’ll have to lose a player – whether he would have felt pressurised into playing there so they could keep the full complement.”

 

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JPM 2 hours ago
Forget Ireland, the All Blacks face the real alpha of Europe next

Unfortunately you don't know anything about French rugby, coaches and players but still making a lot of assumptions and judgements to push your prefabricated and simplistic point of view that Dupont is manipulating everything and is a bad guy. I am not a NZ rugby specialist and wouldn't dare make such theories about what is going on within the ABs team. Therefore my advice to you is to do like Dupont and stay humble when you don't know all the background of the issues !!!


Firstly if you knew a bit of Galthié, he is not the type of coach who is going to ask advice to his players and even his captain about team selection. He is as stubborn as you...


Second Ramos has played a lot of times as 10 with Toulouse and therefore Dupont (in particular when Ntamack is injured and unfortunately it has often happened recently and for long periods). He even played 10 during the last 3 games of the 2024 6N and this was far better performance than the first two games with Jalibert as 10.


Thirdly Jalibert lacked of respect to a La Rochelle player so your theory is once again out.


Fourth as I explained to you Galthié went for a 6-2 bench and Jalibert can only play 10 which doesn't fit that plan. Furthermore as 15 Buros is better under high balls than Ramos and everybody is prepared for a tactical kicking game.


So you can blame Galthié for a lot of things (as you clearly enjoy doing at the end of your post and you should be very happy as an AB fan) but certainly not Dupont. Sorry once more for your conspiracy theory.


And don't worry about potential disharmony in the French team; they are excellent mates around their captain. Jalibert is well known in the French rugby circles to have not a strong character (and we saw that in the WC quarter finals as he is very nervous in any decisive international game unlike Ntamack and Ramos as for his late penalty kick vs England this year).


In conclusion enjoy the game tmrw night. It is good that the ABs are very upset; we should watch a great game of rugby. I hope for running rugby and not too much kicking. With 5 key players injured on our side (Ntamack, Baille, Atonio, Cros and Penaud) and 2 on your side I and various French fans see you as favourites. I obviously hope for another result.


If you are interested you can read a good article in the Guardian on the subject of France-NZ games.

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KB 2 hours ago
The 'one difference' between Boks and the back-to-back All Blacks

Consistency hasnt been there they have many great players SA were also not unbeaten in the 2023 WC - NZ were in 2015 WC McCaw and Carter Nonu and Smith - SA did not have those Marque players in those postions in 2019 or 2023 - I wouldnt rank them ahead of the 20I5 ABs - They clocked up 60 points against France in the QF - Furthermore I do not believe for one moment SA won 2023 fairly no way - they were so favoured it became obvious that behind the scenes SA the nation bought the title - Their last 3 matches were won by a solitary point there were many contentious decisions that went their way that it became obvious it wasnt coincidence - Sport has been hijacked by a satanic cult just as is Politics

Some players coaches officials and sponsors are involved - they know who they are - its called Freemasonry - any sport that allows betting is corrupt - its not all about money either for these parasites its also about control - Lots of American NFL players have spoken openly about games being scripted - Football is also rigged Referees have been caught on film showing freemason hand signs - The 95 RWC final ranks as the highest and most obvious attempt at cheating There was no way SA were going to allow NZ to gate crash Nelson Mandelas reunification party - NZ were so good they had to posion almost the entire team to get a 3 point win - a Hollywood Movie ( theres your Red Flag ) was made about SAs triumph called Invictus


William Henley wrote a poem called Invictus


It starts


Out of the night that covers me BLACK ( All Blacks ) as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever GODS maybe for my unconquerable Soul ...( Olan says INVICTUS is an evil Malevolent entity who corrupted the Titans ... this is Mandelas double meaning speech ( hes a fraud ) - of thanks for helping overcome SA's adversary NZ - There is only ONE true God Yahuah - Only a false god would be complicit in Cheating Corruption and Harming others to win a RWC for a sick and sinful Nation ) the poem ends with


I am the CAPTAIN of my soul


SA will forever bear the stain of guilt and disgrace over their involvement in poisoning the ABs a day before the 95 RWC Final

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CO 2 hours ago
Forget Ireland, the All Blacks face the real alpha of Europe next

I cannot believe that you don't think the French rugby team coach and captain are not discussing putting Jalibert on the bench in favour of Duponts club teammate that doesn't even play at 10.


This is a terrible, massive insult to a 10 and I'm sure Dupont would also be very enraged if benched for a player that doesn't even play halfback.


A good captain would've insisted to the coach that it was an idea of madness and either select Jalibert or replace him with another 10 if you want him to be reserve.


Jalibert may not be the world's finest tacklers but that's often not a tens main strength that the loose forwards and second five cover. An intercept pass is never great but they happen.


When any player is playing for his club then it's club first, respect doesn't need to be shown to opposition players simply because they're internationals.


Who exactly are you claiming Jalibert hasn't respected? If it's Toulouse international players then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this bench demotion out.


The outcome of selecting Jalibert to the bench and he then throwing his croissants out the window of the team bus immediately prior to playing the Allblacks is a disaster that will be team disharmony as any team mates of Jalibert are in a state of anger and revolt so a performance that will be sub optimal against a team that is thirsting for revenge against France.


I don't know about you but the Allblacks are very upset they've lost twice in a row to France and want to put out a statement performance so this preparation by Galthie of creating havoc looks to me like a coach that is clueless.

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