We all know the Chiefs are the best team in Super Rugby

My question is still the same, and the important one though. Where the rate of concussions in Fed 2 high? Of course if there where only three concussions, and they were reduced now to one, then there is no need for the new laws etc.

There are two angles to this discussion, mine above about player welfare, and of course the that which you raise, legal responsibility. More, the legal responsibility we are concerned with is what’s happening now.

WR don’t really know much about CTE I wouldn’t think, whether it happens from innocuous things like heading a ball, or from small knocks or big knocks that don’t heal. Right now they are ensuring the backside is clean by implementing laws to rule out any possibility they didn’t do enough. So once they understand the problem more they may realise some things are overboard.

The other legal responsibility is the one you are talking about in France, the past. Did the LNR and WR know about the severity and frequency of CTE in rugby? That is the question in that debate. If they didn’t know then theres nothing they could have done, so there is no worry. Further, what we may have now is a situation where 90% of those court actions might not happen in future thanks to the new framework we already have around HIA and head contact processes. Your English example is only going to be an issue if future players still continue to receive CTE (as that is obviously bad), as it is now, the players have taken on their own responsibility by ignore advice. No doubt some countries, like France and New Zealand, will lower their tackle height, but as long as the union has done an adequate job in advising of the severity of the problem at least the legal shadow over the community game will have gone.

It is also a double effect, Segonds was good for a cameos, or 1 game, more he didn’t seem ready for and hindered his teams function and learning potential in game two. Perhaps it’s a mental barrier with Segunds, and he got a big head after game one or something, which at least now he can learn from (because he had that second chance to be bad), but overall I see so much more benefit in a player like Jalibert for such a key position (but yes I think generically, I don’t really know he is good in the areas of game management etc).

Ofc it is all hypothetical, I do not know any alternative example to Jalibert (though I did think of Jaminet still looking great against SA and maybe Segonds and Hastoy were supposed to be better even?) at 10, if he is injured, or what I more likely would have thought, blocked by his club (not even playing 6N), is a concept for any key position like hooker (where you lost a lot of good attacking ball) as well.

Anyway. It’s been fun as always OTS. I’m over the “page missing” errror. even though I could argue with you all day - ya big dummy.

Have a nice day.

And good luck with that depth.

I prefer 6969

My computer skills are fine. You though…

Do you remember them.

Ahhh. The good old days. Long time ago.