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'Envy of a lot of the rugby world': Sam Cane's agent jumps into All Blacks eligibility debate

All Blacks captain Sam Cane poses in his new uniform following a press conference for the Japanese rugby side Suntory Sungoliath at Ajinomoto Stadium in Chofu, Tokyo on November 28, 2023. (Photo by Richard A. Brooks / AFP via Getty Images)

Sam Cane has suggested that the All Blacks eligibility rules should be reviewed but his agent has defended New Zealand Rugby’s stance on picking overseas players.

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Top rugby agent Simon Porter, who manages Cane among other high profile names, said that New Zealand is the “envy of most the rugby world” when it comes to contracts.

The formation of the eligibility rules at the dawn of professionalism was more by accident than by design, but the agent believed it was one of the core competitive advantages that drives success with the All Blacks today.

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“When rugby went professional in 1996, we adopted the central contracting model,” Porter explained on Newstalk ZB’s Talksport with D’Arcy Waldegrave.

“By need more than anything, we didn’t have private money that was potentially on offer from England and France, to come in and make clubland the primary contract holder.

“We went centrally contracted and that meant that New Zealand Rugby were the ones that put up all the money and had all the rights etc. and contracted all the players.

“The one thing in this debate that I think you cannot underestimate or overlook is that, even though we haven’t had success at the last two World Cups in the men’s game, it is still our competitive advantage.”

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Porter pointed to Australia’s desire to copy the centralised model as evidence of this competitive advantage that New Zealand has.

As Rugby Australia grapples with in-fighting at the top after ousting chairman Hamish McLennan, they have expressed a desire to centralise their system to align all the bodies in the game.

A strong system is required to fight the growing demands of professionalism and offshore leagues who want to attract the best players.

“We are the envy of a lot of the rugby world in how we contract,” he said.

“We see Australia with their moves. They are trying to centralise, bring everything under the same tent.

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“That is basically just trying to replicate what we have. You have to remember it is a competitive advantage and then matching that you’ve got the advancing of professionalism.

“Advancing of players wanting to play around the world in different competitions, and you’ve got those competitions who want the best players.

“At the end of the day everything in sport is a competition for eyeballs.”

For New Zealand rugby players the dream has always been to become an All Black, and Porter believes that is still the case today.

But having seen the landscape change from amateur to professional, the younger generation don’t know of anything different other than fully professional.

The players that are coming through view the game as a means to set themselves up for life as opposed to players during the amateur days.

“The lure of the black jersey is still very strong, there is no doubt,” he said.

“But what you are also getting is a breed of rugby player where rugby has only been professional in their lifetime.

“They don’t know the stories of the sacrifices or the brown paper envelopes paid in Italy or anything like that. They only know professionalism.

“They are brought up laser-focused on wanting rugby to be what they do, how they make their money, how they can set themselves up.

“This breeds the next question of how do I do that, when do I give up on the dream.”

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The hot topic is less of an issue than it is being made out to be, with the agent revealing the number of players leaving New Zealand from his agency is lower than previous post-World Cup years in the past.

The “cyclical” nature of the rugby business built around a four-year Rugby World Cup cycle meant that this generally always happens.

“Every four years this debate rolls around because it’s a World Cup year and there is an exodus,” he said.

“It’s pretty cyclical in nature, the big names head off after the World Cup because they’ve done their time in the jersey and want to hand it on.

“I know it is an interesting talking point but I don’t know it is the big issue that everyone makes it out to be.”

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B.J. Spratt 351 days ago

Anyone who honestly thinks the the NZRFU are anything but “An incompetent bunch of old men with bad breath and dandruff” should have watched the Women’s Sevens in Dubai. “ALTRAD” on their jersey. How stupid are they? Who got the “backhander from Laporte in the first place? Laporte and Mohed Altrad both convicted of Bribery and given a two year suspended jail sentence.

We still have the bent Bedouin’s Name on the jersey.

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Forward pass 356 days ago

Finally someone who gets it. Go to OS selection and thats it for domestic rugby in NZ.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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