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'Envy of a lot of the rugby world': Sam Cane's agent jumps into All Blacks eligibility debate

All Blacks captain Sam Cane poses in his new uniform following a press conference for the Japanese rugby side Suntory Sungoliath at Ajinomoto Stadium in Chofu, Tokyo on November 28, 2023. (Photo by Richard A. Brooks / AFP via Getty Images)

Sam Cane has suggested that the All Blacks eligibility rules should be reviewed but his agent has defended New Zealand Rugby’s stance on picking overseas players.

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Top rugby agent Simon Porter, who manages Cane among other high profile names, said that New Zealand is the “envy of most the rugby world” when it comes to contracts.

The formation of the eligibility rules at the dawn of professionalism was more by accident than by design, but the agent believed it was one of the core competitive advantages that drives success with the All Blacks today.

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“When rugby went professional in 1996, we adopted the central contracting model,” Porter explained on Newstalk ZB’s Talksport with D’Arcy Waldegrave.

“By need more than anything, we didn’t have private money that was potentially on offer from England and France, to come in and make clubland the primary contract holder.

“We went centrally contracted and that meant that New Zealand Rugby were the ones that put up all the money and had all the rights etc. and contracted all the players.

“The one thing in this debate that I think you cannot underestimate or overlook is that, even though we haven’t had success at the last two World Cups in the men’s game, it is still our competitive advantage.”

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Porter pointed to Australia’s desire to copy the centralised model as evidence of this competitive advantage that New Zealand has.

As Rugby Australia grapples with in-fighting at the top after ousting chairman Hamish McLennan, they have expressed a desire to centralise their system to align all the bodies in the game.

A strong system is required to fight the growing demands of professionalism and offshore leagues who want to attract the best players.

“We are the envy of a lot of the rugby world in how we contract,” he said.

“We see Australia with their moves. They are trying to centralise, bring everything under the same tent.

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“That is basically just trying to replicate what we have. You have to remember it is a competitive advantage and then matching that you’ve got the advancing of professionalism.

“Advancing of players wanting to play around the world in different competitions, and you’ve got those competitions who want the best players.

“At the end of the day everything in sport is a competition for eyeballs.”

For New Zealand rugby players the dream has always been to become an All Black, and Porter believes that is still the case today.

But having seen the landscape change from amateur to professional, the younger generation don’t know of anything different other than fully professional.

The players that are coming through view the game as a means to set themselves up for life as opposed to players during the amateur days.

“The lure of the black jersey is still very strong, there is no doubt,” he said.

“But what you are also getting is a breed of rugby player where rugby has only been professional in their lifetime.

“They don’t know the stories of the sacrifices or the brown paper envelopes paid in Italy or anything like that. They only know professionalism.

“They are brought up laser-focused on wanting rugby to be what they do, how they make their money, how they can set themselves up.

“This breeds the next question of how do I do that, when do I give up on the dream.”

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The hot topic is less of an issue than it is being made out to be, with the agent revealing the number of players leaving New Zealand from his agency is lower than previous post-World Cup years in the past.

The “cyclical” nature of the rugby business built around a four-year Rugby World Cup cycle meant that this generally always happens.

“Every four years this debate rolls around because it’s a World Cup year and there is an exodus,” he said.

“It’s pretty cyclical in nature, the big names head off after the World Cup because they’ve done their time in the jersey and want to hand it on.

“I know it is an interesting talking point but I don’t know it is the big issue that everyone makes it out to be.”

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B.J. Spratt 381 days ago

Anyone who honestly thinks the the NZRFU are anything but “An incompetent bunch of old men with bad breath and dandruff” should have watched the Women’s Sevens in Dubai. “ALTRAD” on their jersey. How stupid are they? Who got the “backhander from Laporte in the first place? Laporte and Mohed Altrad both convicted of Bribery and given a two year suspended jail sentence.

We still have the bent Bedouin’s Name on the jersey.

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Forward pass 387 days ago

Finally someone who gets it. Go to OS selection and thats it for domestic rugby in NZ.

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JW 2 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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