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'We made so many dumb errors': The All Blacks in the firing line following shock Bledisloe Cup thumping

Aaron Smith, Joe Moody, Ben Smith, Sam Whitelock and Kieran Read loon on ahead of their Bledisloe Cup clash with the Wallabies in Perth on Saturday. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

NZ Herald

The All Blacks could make shock front row changes after getting beaten up by the Wallabies in Perth.

That’s the call from former coach John Hart, who said the established All Black props failed to meet their new job description in the massive defeat to the Wallabies.

Hart also added that veteran All Black Ben Smith doesn’t have the electricity at fullback to replace Beauden Barrett in the 15 jersey.

If Hart is right then legendary All Black World Cup-winning tighthead Owen Franks could be in the gun, along with his Crusaders partner Joe Moody.

Hart says the All Black will get back on track if they can win the collisions, but told Radio Sport that starting props Franks and Moody failed in their new mission.

And there are startling statistics which back Hart up.

Moody made just one carry, which is one more than Franks made, while replacements Atu Moli and Angus Ta’avao made five each.

In stark contrast, Wallaby tighthead Allan Alaalatoa made an incredible 12 runs, and Scott Sio an impressive eight as Australia dominated possession. Replacement Taniela Tupou made eight, and James Slipper one.

“I thought we were outplayed physically we made to many mistakes, let Australia in game, their physicality was the difference,” Hart said.

“The All Blacks need to win the physical battle, need to win the collisions, need to get the ball going forwards and certainly need to eliminate errors.

“We lost the physical battle. We were on the back foot, they were on the front foot.

“Steve [Hansen] said he was looking more from his props…I thought on Saturday night we saw eight Australian forwards with the capacity to carry the ball and make inroads into the defence. You didn’t see many ball carrying All Black forwards.

“There was a lot of pressure on the props this week to carry the ball – it didn’t happen they do have to have props carrying the ball saw Australian props carrying the ball but not ours.

“Maybe we need to change in terms of [props] we start and finish with.”

Hart said the All Blacks would concentrate on the basics this week, and if the forwards could do the job then the backs would flow. But they had also been beaten up front by the Springboks.

He said the controversial Richie Mo’unga/Beauden Barrett combination was not getting a fair chance because the forwards were getting smashed. Barrett provided a spark in the No 15 jersey which Smith would now struggle to emulate.

Since the start of 2018, Smith has started 15 tests, six at fullback and nine on the wing.

“The Australians came out firing and let’s give credit to them,” he said.

“They played very, very well, it’s the fittest Australian side I’ve seen in years. They went the distance physically and mentally.

“Nic White, who hasn’t been a big name in rugby, had an outstanding game because he was given quality ball and could manipulate the defence. All of a sudden their backs had the space.

“The electricity that Beauden Barrett provides at 15 would be lacking in Ben Smith, so you can’t quite get the same thing,” he added.

“Damian McKenzie’s injury is a major injury for the All Blacks in terms of the game they were playing and they’re trying now to compliment that and put something else in place that continues to have that electricity from the back.”

“But it all goes back to the quality of the ball. We made so many dumb errors, gave away so many penalties so we gave away field position.”

This article was first published on nzherald.co.nz and was republished here with permission.

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Tom 6 hours ago
Will Bristol's daredevil 'Bears-ball' deliver the trophy they crave?

Also a Bristol fan and echo your sentiments.


I love watching Bristol but their approach will only get them so far I think. Exeter played like this when they first got promoted to the prem and had intermittent success, it wasn't until they wised up and played a more balanced game that they became a consistently top side.


I really want Bristol to continue playing this brand of rugby and I don't mind them running it from under their posts but I don't think they need to do it every single time. They need to be just a little bit more selective about when and where on the pitch they play. Every game they put themselves under so much needless pressure by turning the ball over under their posts trying to do kamikaze moves when it's not required. By all means run it from your goal line if there is a chance for a counter attack, we all want to see Bristol running in 100m tries from under their posts but I think until they learn when to do it and when to be pragmatic, they are unlikely to win the premiership.


Defense has been a real positive from Bristol, they've shown a lot of improvement there... And I will say that I think this kamikaze strategy they employ is a very good one for a struggling side and could be employed by Newcastle. It's seems to have turned around Gloucester's fortunes. The big advantage is even if you don't have the biggest and best players, what you have is cohesion. This is why Scotland keep battering England. England have better individuals but they look muddled as a team, trying to play a mixed strategy under coaches who lack charisma, the team has no identity. Scotland come out and give it full throttle from 1-15 even if they struggle against the top sides, sides like England and Wales who lack that identity drown under the relentless will and synergy of the Scots. If Newcastle did the same they could really surprise some people, I know the weather is bad up there but it hasn't bothered the Scots. Bristol can learn from Scotland too, Pat is on to something when he says the following but Scotland don't play test matches like headless chickens. They still play with the same level of clarity and ambition Bristol do but they are much better at picking their moments. They needed to go back to this mad game to get their cohesion back after a couple of seasons struggling but I hope they get a bit wiser from matches like Leinster and La Rochelle.


“If there’s clarity on what you’re trying to do as a team you can win anything.”

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