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'We really need him': Reds star set to shift again for quarter-final

James O'Connor in action for the Reds. (Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)

Josh Flook has tipped the “18-year-old” James O’Connor to resurface if he returns to the centres for the Queensland Reds’ Super Rugby Pacific quarter-final.

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And there could be more midfield positional shuffling as coach Brad Thorn plots another backs-to-the wall New Zealand upset in potentially his last game as coach.

No.12 Hunter Paisami didn’t train on Wednesday after battling knee soreness in his return to the starting side from a long-term injury in last week’s humbling loss to the Fijian Drua.

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O’Connor wore the No.10 in that game but would be a natural selection at inside centre should Test weapon Paisami not travel to Hamilton to face the table-topping Chiefs on Saturday.

That would allow Tom Lynagh to wear the No.10 again in the sudden-death clash, while winger Filipo Daugunu is being considered at No.13 in a wildcard move that would push the versatile Flook onto the flank.

Daugunu was terrific in the unfamiliar position when the Reds upset the Chiefs in New Plymouth last month, the only loss the Chiefs have suffered this season and first Reds win in the country for 10 years.

Flook said the Reds needed O’Connor to be at his best for the side to become the first Australian team to win a Super Rugby play-off game in New Zealand.

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The 32-year-old debuted for Australia on the wing as an 18-year-old but has found a home in the Reds’ spine since returning from Europe in 2019.

He is off contract but AAP understands the Reds are close to finalising a deal to keep him at Ballymore next season.

“He’s starting to find his feet again, playing with that bit of confidence as he did when he had that really good season at No.10,” Flook said on Wednesday.

“Hopefully he’s got that back because we really need him this weekend.

“At 12 he’s a bit more of a ball-runner, can bring his footwork and show he’s still got it from back when he was an 18-year-old kid.

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“At 10 he’s got to take that leadership role just a tad bit more and direct the team … the 12 position just gives them a little bit more freedom.”

Thorn won’t coach the Reds next year and will use the off-season to consider his next move after a remarkable stint as professional player and mentor in both rugby codes stretching back to 1994 with the Brisbane Broncos.

“He’s not a selfish person, he’s making it all about us,” Flook said.

“But I know all of us have, in the back of our mind, that we’re playing for him.

“We’re just playing for pride at the moment, were embarrassed last week and we’ve taken that personally.”

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JW 3 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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