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We weren't the same team that we were in November – Hartley

England’s Dylan Hartley

Dylan Hartley insists England’s mindset following their defeat to Ireland at Twickenham is the same as it would be had they claimed a Six Nations Grand Slam.

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Ireland were 24-15 victors in the London snow, sealing the Slam for themselves and extending the hosts’ alarming losing run to three matches following previous defeats to Scotland and France.

Prior to their recent downturn, Eddie Jones’ side had lost only one Test since the Australian took charge in the wake of a disastrous 2015 Rugby World Cup campaign – that defeat also coming against Ireland in Dublin last year.

Pre-tournament favourites, England finished in fifth after their worst run of Six Nations results in 12 years.

But Hartley does not believe the setback should knock England off their stride as they aim for the ultimate goal of winning next year’s World Cup in Japan.

“Even coming into this campaign, we weren’t the same team that we were in November,” said the captain.

“Selection, injuries, development – we want to kick on, we don’t want to be the same team. Whether we’re winning or losing, we want to get better.

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“If we’d won the Six Nations, if we’d won the Grand Slam, we’d say we’re going to go to South Africa [in June] and we’re going to be a better team, we’re going to be a different team and we’re going to improve.

“Unfortunately we’re off the back of a loss, but I’m going to say the same thing. We’ll be a different team, we’ll keep developing, keep working.

 

“It keeps your feet firmly on the ground and keeps a burning hunger and desire to improve.

“We’ve experienced the highs. We’ve been on the highs of the rollercoaster and it’s bloody good fun. It’s hard work doing that.

“At the moment we’re experiencing a low and we know what it takes to get back, so we want to get back and enjoy those highs.

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“When we started this journey, I think we were ranked eighth in the world and we had a rapid rise, but we earned that.

“With that comes a bit of a target on your back and everyone’s got a bit excited about playing us. Everyone’s always got excited about playing England, but other teams are getting better and we’ve got do the same.”

England will face France, Argentina, Tonga and the United States in Pool C at the 2019 World Cup.

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Smith generally isn't well connected to his forward pods; doesn't do a great job of distributing to those around him; and has inferior positional and contestable kicking games than Ford and Fin.


When England have had success over the past few years, its been either through (i) defensive rugby backed up with smart tactical kicking or (ii) high possession attacking phase play based on quick ruck ball. George Ford was key to the implementation of (i) in the RWC, and in the 6N win over Wales, and to the implementation of (ii) in the 6N games against Ireland and France. Smith did great at (ii) when running at tired defenders at the end of the Ireland match, but has never successfully implemented that gameplan from the start of a test because he doesn't distribute or support his forwards enough to create consistent fast ball and build attacks over multiple phases. Instead, his introduction to the starting side has resulted in much more playmaking responsibilities being forced onto whoever plays 9. Alex Mitchell copes ok with that, but I think he looks better with a more involved playmaking 10 outside him, and it really isn't a gameplan that works for JVP or Spencer. As a result of that the outside backs and centres have barely touched the ball when Smith has been at 10.


This might not have been too much of a disaster, as England have seemed to be moving slightly towards the sort of attacking gameplan that France played under Labit and Quins play (I think this was especially their approach when they won the league a few years ago - but its still a part of their play now), which is based on kicking to create broken field rugby. This is (i) a sharp departure from the gameplans that have worked for England in the past few seasons; (ii) bears very little relation to the tactical approaches of the non-Quins players in the England team; and (iii) is an absolute disaster for the blitz defence, which is weak in transition. Unsurprisingly, it has coincided with a sharp decline in England's results.

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