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'What are we doing?' - Danny Wilson explains confusion in dying moments of madcap 1872 Cup clash

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Edinburgh's Jamie Hodgson and Grant Gilchrist at full time during a Guinness Pro14 tie between Glasgow Warriors and Edinburgh (Photo by Ross MacDonald/SNS Group via Getty Images)

Danny Wilson breathed a sigh of relief as Glasgow survived a madcap 1872 Cup derby with Edinburgh to banish their miserable end to 2020. Warriors picked up just their third win of the season after edging out Richard Cockerill’s capital side 23-22.

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Tries from Matt Fagerson and George Turner – as well as 13 points from 21-year-old stand-off Ross Thompson on his first professional start – were enough to propel the Scotstoun men off the bottom of the Guinness PRO14’s A Conference.

But only after two bizarre moments left everyone watching scratching their heads.

The first saw Edinburgh’s Nic Groom blunder when he kicked the ball to touch with 30 seconds left of the first period when he confused the horn from a passing train for the half-time buzzer.

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It was a costly mistake as Thompson kicked a momentum-boosting penalty before the interval but Glasgow almost ran themselves into trouble at the end of the 80 minutes when they continued playing in the mistaken belief that this year’s 1872 Cup was a two-legged affair, set to be decided on aggregate points rather than a best-of-three series.

Wilson said: “For this group, it was important to get a win. There were a few frightening moments there towards the end.

“The frightening thing was that, a few weeks ago it was mentioned that this game could be played over two legs. Ryan Wilson got wind of that.

“I took it for granted that everyone still knew it was over three legs. So I’m looking at it thinking: ‘What are we doing?’. I was screaming at them to kick it into the stand while they felt like they still had to go for it.

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“But this is a good win for us and we need to use it as a springboard moving forward.”

Cockerill’s side scored first through Jamie Farndale and looked to be mounting a late comeback when Chris Dean and Eroni Sau crossed over.

But Groom’s mistake and a late missed conversion from Jaco Van Der Walt saw Edinburgh come up short.

“We’re disappointed with the result,” said Cockerill. “But if Jaco kicks the conversion, are we are a better team than when he didn’t?

“There’s no responsibility on Jaco for missing that. We scored the first try but didn’t control the game well enough.

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“There were a couple of mad minutes before half-time where we kicked the ball out for no reason. Nic thought the train’s horn was the half-time hooter, which he’s used to from the southern hemisphere.

“It was a bit frustrating. We conceded three points and lost by one. It’s not Groomy’s fault, but it’s those tiny moments, we didn’t do the basics well enough.”

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What is the future of rugby in 2025?

Smith generally isn't well connected to his forward pods; doesn't do a great job of distributing to those around him; and has inferior positional and contestable kicking games than Ford and Fin.


When England have had success over the past few years, its been either through (i) defensive rugby backed up with smart tactical kicking or (ii) high possession attacking phase play based on quick ruck ball. George Ford was key to the implementation of (i) in the RWC, and in the 6N win over Wales, and to the implementation of (ii) in the 6N games against Ireland and France. Smith did great at (ii) when running at tired defenders at the end of the Ireland match, but has never successfully implemented that gameplan from the start of a test because he doesn't distribute or support his forwards enough to create consistent fast ball and build attacks over multiple phases. Instead, his introduction to the starting side has resulted in much more playmaking responsibilities being forced onto whoever plays 9. Alex Mitchell copes ok with that, but I think he looks better with a more involved playmaking 10 outside him, and it really isn't a gameplan that works for JVP or Spencer. As a result of that the outside backs and centres have barely touched the ball when Smith has been at 10.


This might not have been too much of a disaster, as England have seemed to be moving slightly towards the sort of attacking gameplan that France played under Labit and Quins play (I think this was especially their approach when they won the league a few years ago - but its still a part of their play now), which is based on kicking to create broken field rugby. This is (i) a sharp departure from the gameplans that have worked for England in the past few seasons; (ii) bears very little relation to the tactical approaches of the non-Quins players in the England team; and (iii) is an absolute disaster for the blitz defence, which is weak in transition. Unsurprisingly, it has coincided with a sharp decline in England's results.

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