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What Borthwick said when asked if England will add more coaches

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Steve Borthwick has insisted that everything is still on track for England to get the much-desired Rugby World Cup opening round win versus Argentina on September 9 and that additional assistance in coaching the team isn’t needed.

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The Borthwick tenure hit rock bottom at Twickenham on Saturday when England were beaten 30-22 by a better-coached Fiji.

However, in spite of this being the sixth loss in the nine outings since he took over from Eddie Jones and the third in four August warm-up matches ahead of France 2023, he didn’t flinch post-game in stressing how there is still optimism heading across the Channel next Thursday.

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Asked if help was required for his inexperienced Test-level coaching team, he retorted: “No, I am very confident in all the people involved around the team… today is not the result or certainly aspects of the performance that we wanted. We are all disappointed by that.

“What we need to do is ensure in two weeks’ time we put in the performance that is required against Argentina. That is the focus and we have got a very talented group of players that I am sure will play exceptionally well against Argentina.”

Points Flow Chart

Fiji win +8
Time in lead
37
Mins in lead
38
46%
% Of Game In Lead
48%
61%
Possession Last 10 min
39%
0
Points Last 10 min
7

Argentina was the straw that Borthwick repeatedly clutched in his 11-minute post-game briefing. On one hand, he was perfectly correct to do so as a win in Marseille against the Pumas will draw a line under a desperate August where England have been drowning in mediocrity.

However, lost that pool opener and all the criticisms of recent weeks will be validated and this Summer Nations Series will be remembered as the World Rugby World Cup preparation in England’s history. At least he was magnanimous about the win Fiji has secured in London.

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“I congratulate Fiji on their performance and deserved victory. They took their chances really well. We are bitterly disappointed.

“Frustrated that we saw growth in some areas of our game but other areas dropped off and ultimately if you miss that many tackles, fall off that many tackles against a team such as Fiji, they are going to score tries.

“We are bitterly disappointed. Credit them for an excellent performance. Ww knew they were a dangerous side before the game, they pushed France very hard last week in France, and they took their opportunities today.

“They are going to do very well at the World Cup and there is the potential we may meet them again in a few weeks’ time.”

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Did he have a message for disillusioned England fans? “Everybody around the England team care deeply about the team, about English rugby. We’re very disappointed with the result today and aspects of the performance. However, it is very clear what we need to do to move forward over the next two weeks.

“I am very happy with the squad we have got. We have got a really talented group of players. The most important thing with the group we have now is the players, coaches and management because I have been involved with other England teams before that, under pressure in difficult circumstances under adversity which is some of the challenges we have faced the last few weeks, have come apart.

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“What I sense is this is a group that is coming even tighter together. We are looking forward to getting to France later this week and looking forward to getting into this World Cup.”

Confirmation of the 33 that will definitely travel was still awaited overnight. The squad is already down to 32 with Anthony Watson ruled out and a medical update was awaited on some others in casualty, namely Elliot Daly.

“In terms of the wider 33, I’ll confirm it as soon as I get the confirmed medical report and the only reason I didn’t confirm Thursday was I need to ensure everyone is fit post this game.”

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finn 482 days ago

We would not be in this situation if they had kept Eddie.

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KiwiSteve 482 days ago

So this is basically the same team that got to the 2019 final less Cowan Dickie, Kruis, Slade, Mako, Underhill. No wonder everyone is scratching their bead wondering what has gone wrong.

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jason 482 days ago

Chuck Norris falls asleep mid kick when he hears Steve Borthwick talk.

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CO 482 days ago

I'm shocked at how awful the English team has got, they've got some outstanding talent.

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Neil 483 days ago

Does anyone bother to proof read these articles?

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Nick 483 days ago

He came out with the same rubbish when he was England captain and the team had turned in another abject performance. Robotic, conservative and totally out of his depth along with his fellow novice Leicester coaches. Out at the group stage again, pathetic.

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Michael 483 days ago

Chief Executive and Head Coach need to go.

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JW 1 hour ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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