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What Declan Kidney has made of Munster and their Ed Sheeran gaffe

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Ex-Munster boss Declan Kidney was diplomacy personified when quizzed this week about the bizarre decision by his old club to schedule a concert at Thomond Park for the same weekend as their home Heineken Champions Cup quarter-final. It was a while ago when the cash-starved Irish province agreed to allow Ed Sheeran to play two nights at Thomond Park in Limerick.

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The English pop star is pencilled in at the ground for May 5 and May 6, a commitment that has forced Munster to relinquish home advantage in Limerick for their May 7 European quarter-final versus Toulouse and instead play the game 120 miles away at the Aviva Stadium in Dublin.   

It’s a bizarre twist of fate for the rugby club whose reputation in hosting memorable Champions Cup matches in Limerick is massively treasured. Only last weekend, Exeter, the 2020 European and Gallagher Premiership champions, spoke glowing about their latest experience of playing at Thomond Park despite their round of 16 defeat. 

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Munster’s progress to the quarter-finals was confirmed shortly before 5pm last Saturday but it was only around 10pm that night, shortly after Antoine Dupont scored a decisive converted try in Belfast, that it was confirmed that Johann van Graan’s team had secured a home last-eight match against champions Toulouse rather than having to play away to Ulster at the Kingspan Stadium.  

There has been much debate in the aftermath about the situation that has transpired for Munster and Kidney, who guided the club to its European triumphs in 2006 and 2008 before going on to coach Ireland to the 2009 Grand Slam, has now given his view about a match that will take place in front of twice as big an attendance in Dublin rather than around 26,000 fans in Limerick.

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Asked at his midweek London Irish media briefing what he make of the carry-on back home regarding Munster and the non-availability of Thomond Park for the glamour European match, Kidney said: “Look, all these decisions are made at a certain time and if people had wishing glasses to see what is ahead of them, would they make the same decisions? But that said, every player looks forward to playing in his national stadium and I’m sure it will balance out with that.

“That creates an atmosphere in itself and if Munster had 50,000 supporters as against the 27,000 that would be packed into Thomond Park, then you gain on one hand and you lose on the other. But yeah, I am not going to get into the middle of that one I’m afraid.”

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Kidney added that it wasn’t only the rugby schedule that the Sheeran tour of Ireland has affected, going on to explain how the Cork GAA football team have also given up home advantage for its Munster championship Gaelic match against Kerry. “I’m from Cork and if you look into what is going on there with the football, it’s the same thing. They were supposed to play Kerry in the championship but Ed Sheehan is playing at Pairc Ui Chaoimh. There is definitely a paragraph in there somewhere.”

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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