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'What I was meaning...': Hamish Watson has again revisited his comments about Zander Fagerson's Six Nations red card

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Guinness Six Nations player of the tournament Hamish Watson has revisited the round two red card suffered by fellow Scotland forward Zander Fagerson and reiterated how his initial comments in the wake of the prop’s Murrayfield sending off were wrong. Watson said in the immediate aftermath of the narrow February 13 loss to Wales: “That was a rubbish call. An absolutely dreadful call. That’s not rugby, that call.”

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The back row soon recanted, tweeting: “Poor comments from me, emotions were very high after losing a very tight match. Players’ health is paramount.” The 29-year-old Watson, who is tipped next month for Lions tour selection, has now revisited the Scotland controversy in the company of The Rugby Pod, going back over his view of the red-carded Fagerson tackle on Wyn Jones that received a four-match ban.

“It’s so tough,” he told co-hosts Andy Goode and Jim Hamilton about the recent clampdown by referees. “Especially after that Wales incident, you saw in the weeks after that it was red card after red card and it is so hard.

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“After I had cooled off after the things I had said and I looked at it, obviously by the letter of the law it is a red card. Player safety is the main thing and Wyn Jones could have been hurt, so I understand what I said was wrong and I didn’t put it across in the best way.

“But what I was meaning, I just think almost every other ruck you could give a yellow card and that is the problem at the moment with rugby. Yes, by the letter of the law, that is 100 per cent a red card and the other ones we have seen are probably red cards but sometimes there needs to be a bit of room there.

“It’s so tough because it is all about the concussions and the stories you hear at the moment going around with some ex-rugby players, you have got to look after the players. It is a red card but it is a hard one because we all know that stuff goes on quite a lot.”

Co-host Hamilton recalled that during his time playing for Scotland that the call in the defensive line was “kill” and he wanted to know if the terminology currently used in the game at Test level by Watson and co was just as drastic or had it been diluted due to increased safety concerns.

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“The problem with it is it’s such a physical sport and if you almost don’t go in with your physicality right, everyone would have had those days where you are not physically at that point that you need to be at to play a game of rugby, and that is when you tend to get hurt if you are not switched on,” continued Watson, who has won 46 Scotland caps since a 2015 debut.

“The coaches and staff probably try and get away from using words like that but you still need to almost go in with that attitude. It is a physical sport, what you are doing can hurt people, even when you do it in the cleanest ways. It is a tough one. If you don’t go in with the right attitude you are going to get hurt as well, so it is just trying to keep it as clean as possible.

“Now there is a lot more coaching, especially towards the back end of the season, and they are saying watch out for this, watch out for even doing a hold-up, if you get someone around the neck then it is going to be a card, so the coaches are trying to bring it – but you are doing everything at such a quick tempo that stuff does go wrong because if you are not fully committed then you are going to end up hurting yourself.

“I don’t think any player goes in thinking, the ones where they haven’t wrapped an arm and they end up hitting them in the head, no player is deliberately doing that,” he said, adding that the differences in the coaching of tackles between club and international set-ups can add to the difficulty in getting it right.

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“It’s really hard. I remember I used to be a low chop tackler and then when Alan Solomons and Omar (Mouneimne) came in our defence system was all about tackling high and you all had to tackle high and hold up and slow the ball down by going high. To change your attitudes is quite hard.

“Players with their club team who maybe choke and tackle high to slow the ball down instead of jackaling then go back to their international set-ups and give away a few penalties for getting their body shapes wrong or going too high, it is tough to change in an eight-week camp. That is really tough.”

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JPM 48 minutes ago
Forget Ireland, the All Blacks face the real alpha of Europe next

Unfortunately you don't know anything about French rugby, coaches and players but still making a lot of assumptions and judgements to push your prefabricated and simplistic point of view that Dupont is manipulating everything and is a bad guy. I am not a NZ rugby specialist and wouldn't dare make such theories about what is going on within the ABs team. Therefore my advice to you is to do like Dupont and stay humble when you don't know all the background of the issues !!!


Firstly if you knew a bit of Galthié, he is not the type of coach who is going to ask advice to his players and even his captain about team selection. He is as stubborn as you...


Second Ramos has played a lot of times as 10 with Toulouse and therefore Dupont (in particular when Ntamack is injured and unfortunately it has often happened recently and for long periods). He even played 10 during the last 3 games of the 2024 6N and this was far better performance than the first two games with Jalibert as 10.


Thirdly Jalibert lacked of respect to a La Rochelle player so your theory is once again out.


Fourth as I explained to you Galthié went for a 6-2 bench and Jalibert can only play 10 which doesn't fit that plan. Furthermore as 15 Buros is better under high balls than Ramos and everybody is prepared for a tactical kicking game.


So you can blame Galthié for a lot of things (as you clearly enjoy doing at the end of your post and you should be very happy as an AB fan) but certainly not Dupont. Sorry once more for your conspiracy theory.


And don't worry about potential disharmony in the French team; they are excellent mates around their captain. Jalibert is well known in the French rugby circles to have not a strong character (and we saw that in the WC quarter finals as he is very nervous in any decisive international game unlike Ntamack and Ramos as for his late penalty kick vs England this year).


In conclusion enjoy the game tmrw night. It is good that the ABs are very upset; we should watch a great game of rugby. I hope for running rugby and not too much kicking. With 5 key players injured on our side (Ntamack, Baille, Atonio, Cros and Penaud) and 2 on your side I and various French fans see you as favourites. I obviously hope for another result.


If you are interested you can read a good article in the Guardian on the subject of France-NZ games.

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KB 51 minutes ago
The 'one difference' between Boks and the back-to-back All Blacks

Consistency hasnt been there they have many great players SA were also not unbeaten in the 2023 WC - NZ were in 2015 WC McCaw and Carter Nonu and Smith - SA did not have those Marque players in those postions in 2019 or 2023 - I wouldnt rank them ahead of the 20I5 ABs - They clocked up 60 points against France in the QF - Furthermore I do not believe for one moment SA won 2023 fairly no way - they were so favoured it became obvious that behind the scenes SA the nation bought the title - Their last 3 matches were won by a solitary point there were many contentious decisions that went their way that it became obvious it wasnt coincidence - Sport has been hijacked by a satanic cult just as is Politics

Some players coaches officials and sponsors are involved - they know who they are - its called Freemasonry - any sport that allows betting is corrupt - its not all about money either for these parasites its also about control - Lots of American NFL players have spoken openly about games being scripted - Football is also rigged Referees have been caught on film showing freemason hand signs - The 95 RWC final ranks as the highest and most obvious attempt at cheating There was no way SA were going to allow NZ to gate crash Nelson Mandelas reunification party - NZ were so good they had to posion almost the entire team to get a 3 point win - a Hollywood Movie ( theres your Red Flag ) was made about SAs triumph called Invictus


William Henley wrote a poem called Invictus


It starts


Out of the night that covers me BLACK ( All Blacks ) as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever GODS maybe for my unconquerable Soul ...( Olan says INVICTUS is an evil Malevolent entity who corrupted the Titans ... this is Mandelas double meaning speech ( hes a fraud ) - of thanks for helping overcome SA's adversary NZ - There is only ONE true God Yahuah - Only a false god would be complicit in Cheating Corruption and Harming others to win a RWC for a sick and sinful Nation ) the poem ends with


I am the CAPTAIN of my soul


SA will forever bear the stain of guilt and disgrace over their involvement in poisoning the ABs a day before the 95 RWC Final

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CO 1 hour ago
Forget Ireland, the All Blacks face the real alpha of Europe next

I cannot believe that you don't think the French rugby team coach and captain are not discussing putting Jalibert on the bench in favour of Duponts club teammate that doesn't even play at 10.


This is a terrible, massive insult to a 10 and I'm sure Dupont would also be very enraged if benched for a player that doesn't even play halfback.


A good captain would've insisted to the coach that it was an idea of madness and either select Jalibert or replace him with another 10 if you want him to be reserve.


Jalibert may not be the world's finest tacklers but that's often not a tens main strength that the loose forwards and second five cover. An intercept pass is never great but they happen.


When any player is playing for his club then it's club first, respect doesn't need to be shown to opposition players simply because they're internationals.


Who exactly are you claiming Jalibert hasn't respected? If it's Toulouse international players then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this bench demotion out.


The outcome of selecting Jalibert to the bench and he then throwing his croissants out the window of the team bus immediately prior to playing the Allblacks is a disaster that will be team disharmony as any team mates of Jalibert are in a state of anger and revolt so a performance that will be sub optimal against a team that is thirsting for revenge against France.


I don't know about you but the Allblacks are very upset they've lost twice in a row to France and want to put out a statement performance so this preparation by Galthie of creating havoc looks to me like a coach that is clueless.

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