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What Ian Foster expects from the All Blacks in 2024 and beyond

Ardie Savea of New Zealand walk down the tunnel during the Rugby World Cup Final match between New Zealand and South Africa at Stade de France on October 28, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by Julian Finney - World Rugby/World Rugby via Getty Images)

Ian Foster will no longer be the All Blacks head coach in 2024 but he is well placed to share a view on how he thinks they may fare having just coached the team to a Rugby World Cup final.

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With intimate knowledge of the players and environment having coached the side since 2012, firstly as an assistant eight years and then for four years as a head coach, he has seen many players come and go.

He offered his view that the All Blacks in 2024 will actually be better placed than they were in 2016 and 2012 following those World Cup victories.

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His reasoning is that this side has actually lost fewer players than those World Cup-winning teams of the past.

“Someone else asked me that and I kind of thought, I think we’ve lost 8 players and of those 8, you’d probably say 6 are iconic, aren’t they?” Foster said on The Platform NZ podcast.

“I’m not sure that Leicester [Fainga’anuku] fills that position at the moment, he’s got a lot of potential. It’s a shame he’s going, I’d love to see him come back.

“If you look at the Richie Mo’s, the Aaron Smiths, the Sam Whitelock and all that, you’ve got some iconic players going.

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“But the reality is that happens after every World Cup.

“And I think the number that we’ve lost is smaller than the last two World Cups.”

In the wake of the 12-11 final defeat NZR announced it is closing in on terms on a new deal to bring back Beauden Barrett until the end of 2027, which would be a major coup for a player once-thought to be finished in black.

But Ian Foster’s optimism comes from the forwards which he said went through a significant re-generation over the last two years of his tenure.

He believed that the All Blacks possessed the “best scrum in the world” with a young pack that will be around for the next four years.

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“One thing that has gone a little unnoticed is if you look at the last two years, there is a lot of younger guys come into this team,” he said.

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“Look at the front row, you’ve got the Ethan de Groot, Tamiati Williams, Fletcher Newells, Tyrel Lomax,

“I know we’ve lost two iconic locks, but Scott Barrett is outstanding, Tupou Vaa’i, Josh Lord, have all been exposed the last couple of years.

“Loosies, you’ve still got Ardie [Savea], Sam [Cane] is coming back. We’ve got a lot of other loose forwards, Luke Jacobson.

“In the backs Finlay [Christie] and Cam [Roigard] are still there. Damian McKenzie, Jordie Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Mark [Telea].

“If you go through the whole list, Caleb Clarke, Will Jordan, there is a large part of that team likely to be there for another four years.

“Particularly the youth of some of that forward pack is going to be gold. I think we saw a scrum that had become the best in the world potentially. Scrummed really well against South Africa.

“That holds us in very good stead at the top level.”

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Pete 363 days ago

At least Razor will not select some of the crocks you stuck with, that cost us the World Cup……….Cain (habitual offender), stupid kicks Barrett at fullback………. for a start.

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Rugger 363 days ago

He believed that the All Blacks possessed the “best scrum in the world” with a young pack that will be around for the next four years.

“…..I think we saw a scrum that had become the best in the world potentially. Scrummed really well against South Africa.”

err.. Yup mate after you targeted their 2nd hooker for early elimination, and the half pint worker flanker then had to come on, why not also say you have “the best line out” too, you won most Bok ball at the throws too, after that “Wife Beater” neck roll and fall on leg ‘accident’.

Funny on a set piece team, you nailed the key one piece for both scrums & throw ins.

Kinda Like BoD in the Lions Series, John Smit by Brad Thorne when at his best. Good targeted hits.

See other peeps can also do cry baby stuff, but truth is our heart is not in it quite like yours.

Mr ‘Kwagga had a hand on the ground’, then we would have had a pen, and won it all before anything else may happen.

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johnz 364 days ago

Translate: I had it much harder than the next bloke, thanks to me, this Razor chap is going to have it easy. We lost many more greats, but despite that I’ve built him the best scrum in the World and left him with some new greats like Vai, Christie and Clarke. Lord has had a massive 4 games so is super experienced, while Dmac is there, even though we didn’t think he was good enough to give him too many opportunities in the 10 jersey. Yep, it will be a cakewalk for that Razor dude, compared to how I had it.

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Pecos 364 days ago

Thank God for Jase Ryan & Joe Schmidt.

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Driss 364 days ago

There are many new talents in any position and not only in props hookers but also locks ( lord , Fabian holland, others -20 ..) , in the wings, fullbacks and also in the number 10 ( burke, Morgan , cashmore , kehanna , love , lacomb ,mcmillar , Perefota etc. )
I am very optimistic and with great coach like Razor.
Razor is a winner and will win the World Cup 2027 !

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Ritea 364 days ago

Well said Ian. Next generation of young and potentially sitters for the next RWC. They proved their short stint in the World Cup. All the best to them.

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Clive 364 days ago

What the world expects from ABs in 2024: Complaining about the ref when they loose. Oh wait, lets not complain about the ref, its those Springboks’ fault that our players get red carded. Those cheats. I want my mommy!

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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