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What if Darcy Swain made a throat-slash gesture to a New Zealand player?

Aaron Smith of the All Blacks is congratulated by Darcy Swain of the Wallabies after playing in his 100th test during the Rugby Championship and Bledisloe Cup match between the New Zealand All Blacks and the Australia Wallabies at Eden Park on August 07, 2021 in Auckland, New Zealand. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

Darcy Swain seems to be Australasian rugby’s villain du jour.

If he made a throat-slitting gesture at a New Zealand player, how would we like that? And, if not Swain, then just a rank and file Wallaby then?

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But if an All Black – in this case Ardie Savea – stoops to that level, apparently we should all move on. Nothing to see here, this is a model citizen who’s made a fulsome apology so stop clutching your pearls.

Well, I’m not sure it’s our place to be the moral arbiters here and I certainly don’t think New Zealand Rugby’s media shills should be declaring this kind of behaviour doesn’t require strong sanction.

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This isn’t about passion or competitiveness and a win-at-all-costs mentality. It’s just grubby.

Many of our leading rugby players appear to style themselves after NBA stars. Guys such as Ja Morant, who has just issued a mea culpa or his own for some even more dopey behaviour than Savea’s.

In many ways I’m less interested in Savea’s act than the reaction to it.

What we’ll tolerate when it’s one of our own, as opposed to the howls of outrage that would accompany the same thing from someone else.

Ideology will inevitably make a hypocrite of you and our prevailing rugby one is that our players are more virtuous than yours.

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Well, in the same way that we pat players on the back for the various acts of virtue signalling, so we should criticise them when they resort to using the international symbol for “you’re a dead man.’’

But we haven’t done that here. We’ve said Savea is a great bloke, that this is out of character, that he knows he’s done the wrong thing and that he should be forgiven.

I like Savea. I’ve argued at different times that he ought to be All Blacks captain and applauded him for the way he’s worn his status as an icon of the Samoan community.

But what happened in Melbourne was no good and we should be big enough to say so.

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If not, then we’ll need to demonstrate the same level of tolerance when someone we don’t like does something to offend our collective sensibilities.

When, say, an opposing player or team doesn’t treat the haka in the way that we’d prefer or – as Quade Cooper did – they tangle with the wrong guy, we’ll need to rush to their defence, not condemn them.

The days of making cartoon clowns out of other teams’ coaches are over.

Or, at least they should be, if we hope to retain a shred of dignity.

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Jmann 654 days ago

Move on.... nothing to see here.

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FT 655 days ago

Let’s ask Quinn Tupaea, what would you have preferred Darcy do, obliterate your ACL or make a throat-slitting gesture?

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David 655 days ago

well the referee would have to step in and call the game off until he left the field otherwise the nz team players might give him some rucking pratice

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David 655 days ago

The difference is that Darcy Swain has a reputation of being a thug, Ardie does not. Terrible comparison.

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Nice One Bruvva 655 days ago

Lets all have a big woke cry. Boo hoo.

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Jack 655 days ago

As a lifelong rugby fan I wonder what the relevance of this is when the sport is being dragged to it's knees. Was in-between nrl and union the other night and after switching over then coming back, 2 yellows had been given. I changed the channel to the nrl again and switched back to find there was only one yellow remaining... The other was now red. At this stage that was my last weekend to try to enjoy rugby, disappointing to see a rugby team taking on an nrl team so may as well watch 2 nrl teams play eachother

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Andrew 655 days ago

Time for the media to stop digging the hole they have found themselves in. This is beyond farcical...

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JB 656 days ago

Wow, so making an idle threat is now the same as almost breaking a players leg and destroying his hopes of going to the World Cup. Get a grip Bidwell

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Terry 656 days ago

Another load of garbage re Savea Incident. Was foul play involved. Apparently not. The way the game is going the rules will soon require the tackler to share hands and kiss is tackled opponent. Better he didn't do it but there area lot worse incidents in any game of rugby.

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Terry 656 days ago

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JW 5 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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