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What If We Brought Back the Ancient 'Goal From Mark' Rule?

Elliot Daly

Reinstating an obsolete rugby law abolished in 1977 could improve the modern game, suggests Jamie Wall.

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New year, new rules, new controversy. This time the lawmakers, to their credit, have taken aim at concussions by cracking down on dangerous tackles and challenges. However, the biggest gripe so far from fans has been the outcome-based decision-making process that refs have had to implement.

Think about it: if you’ve been clobbered and the fate of the guy who tackled you depends on how quickly you get up, what would you do? Common sense would dictate staying on the deck until you can see the ref reaching for his pocket.

This is bad. As in, it could turn into soccer bad. Maybe that’s a stretch, but any potential threat of the sort of play-acting seen in the roundball code happening needs to be dealt with swiftly. Which is why the reintroduction of a long lost rule could go do a lot of help in safeguarding against this threat.

The goal from mark was a method of scoring that was done away with in 1977. It simply meant that claiming a mark wasn’t just restricted to inside one’s own 22, but the entire field of play. If a player were to claim one close enough to the opposition’s posts, you could have a drop or place kick at goal for three points.

Goals from marks were incredibly rare; the last one recorded in a test match happened six years before they were abolished. In a freaky turn of events, brothers Don and Ian Clarke scored one each both for and against the All Blacks in consecutive seasons, but that was in the early 60’s.

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Any player on the field can claim a mark, so how does potentially seeing a prop lining up a toe hack from halfway help reduce concussions? Well, hopefully it’ll mean that we’ll never have to see it happen, because it’ll stop teams putting up the sort of high kicks that result in disasters like Elliot Daly’s abominable challenge against Argentina recently.

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Risking a box kick that will come down in your own half all of a sudden becomes far more dangerous, scoreboard-wise. Unless you can pick out the guys that you know for sure don’t have a hope in hell of landing a shot at goal, it’d be far more safe to keep the ball in hand or kick for touch. Because really, apart from halfbacks, who would miss box kicks?

Reduce the contests and you’ll reduce the dangerous challenges. Reduce the dangerous challenges and you’ll reduce the injuries, cards, suspensions – and most importantly, the amount of time refs spend making up their mind on what to do. Plus the ball spends more time in hand rather than up in the air and one day, maybe, we might be treated to an unlikely shot at goal from a tight forward.

It might seem crazy to resurrect a law that was done away with 40 years ago, but when the other potential option is this, we can never be too vigilant.

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JW 5 hours ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

Yep, that's exactly what I want.

Glasgow won the URC and Edinburgh finished 16th, but Scotland won the six nations, Edinburgh would qualify for the Champions Cup under your system.

It's 'or'. If Glasgow won the URC or Scotland won the six nations. If one of those happens I believe it will (or should) be because the league is in a strong place, and that if a Scotland side can do that, there next best club team should be allowed to reach for the same and that would better serve the advancement of the game.


Now, of course picking a two team league like Scotland is the extreme case of your argument, but I'm happy for you to make it. First, Edinbourgh are a good mid table team, so they are deserving, as my concept would have predicted, of the opportunity to show can step up. Second, you can't be making a serious case that Gloucester are better based on beating them, surely. You need to read Nicks latest article on SA for a current perspective on road teams in the EPCR. Christ, you can even follow Gloucester and look at the team they put out the following week to know that those games are meaningless.


More importantly, third. Glasgow are in a league/pool with Italy, So the next team to be given a spot in my technically imperfect concept would be Benneton. To be fair to my idea that's still in it's infancy, I haven't given any thought to those 'two team' leagues/countries yet, and I'm not about to 😋

They would be arguably worse if they didn't win the Challenge Cup.

Incorrect. You aren't obviously familiar with knockout football Finn, it's a 'one off' game. But in any case, that's not your argument. You're trying to suggest they're not better than the fourth ranked team in the Challenge Cup that hasn't already qualified in their own league, so that could be including quarter finalists. I have already given you an example of a team that is the first to get knocked out by the champions not getting a fair ranking to a team that loses to one of the worst of the semi final teams (for example).

Sharks are better

There is just so much wrong with your view here. First, the team that you are knocking out for this, are the Stormers, who weren't even in the Challenge Cup. They were the 7th ranked team in the Champions Cup. I've also already said there is good precedent to allow someone outside the league table who was heavily impacted early in the season by injury to get through by winning Challenge Cup. You've also lost the argument that Sharks qualify as the third (their two best are in my league qualification system) South African team (because a SAn team won the CC, it just happened to be them) in my system. I'm doubt that's the last of reasons to be found either.


Your system doesn't account for performance or changes in their domestic leagues models, and rely's heavily on an imperfect and less effective 'winner takes all' model.

Giving more incentives to do well in the Challenge Cup will make people take it more seriously. My system does that and yours doesn't.

No your systems doesn't. Not all the time/circumstances. You literally just quoted me describing how they aren't going to care about Challenge Cup if they are already qualifying through league performance. They are also not going to hinder their chance at high seed in the league and knockout matches, for the pointless prestige of the Challenge Cup.


My idea fixes this by the suggesting that say a South African or Irish side would actually still have some desire to win one of their own sides a qualification spot if they win the Challenge Cup though. I'll admit, its not the strongest incentive, but it is better than your nothing. I repeat though, if your not balance entries, or just my assignment, then obviously winning the Challenge Cup should get you through, but your idea of 4th place getting in a 20 team EPCR? Cant you see the difference lol


Not even going to bother finishing that last paragraph. 8 of 10 is not an equal share.

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