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What Stuart Lancaster said when asked if he would coach England again

Stuart Lancaster (Photo by Julian Finney/Getty Images)

Eight years after getting unceremoniously sacked as England boss following the Rugby World Cup, Stuart Lancaster has suggested that working with his country’s national team is something he would consider doing again in the future.

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It was in early September 2015, in the wake of a pre-tournament win over Ireland, that Lancaster declared England were capable of triumphing at the finals, but they were eliminated after playing just three of their four pool matches.

That resulted in Lancaster being replaced by Eddie Jones, but he went on to restore his reputation as a high-calibre coach following his September 2016 arrival at Leinster.

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That seven-year stint as senior coach at the Irish province ended last May with defeat in the Heineken Champions Cup final and he has now taken up a director of rugby role at Racing 92.

During his lengthy stay in Dublin, Lancaster regularly used LinkedIn to share his thoughts on leadership to his 42,000-plus followers and despite his recent move from Ireland to France, he promised to continue this sharing and has now released his first hour-long vlog from Paris.

His wide-ranging conversation included his thought process on why he took up the offer from Racing, adding that he would be open to returning to Leinster in the future if an opportunity arose. That answer led to a question about whether he would ever go back to the England national team.

“I left in different circumstances; that changes things a bit,” he began. “There is a great young group coming through. My son Dan played for the U20s and there is a brilliant age group coming through.

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“If you ask my wife, she might question my sanity if I said yes. There are probably other parts of the world I would love to coach in as well. The southern hemisphere would be a big challenge for me. I’d love to go and coach in Super Rugby in some shape, way or form or international rugby down in the southern hemisphere.

“So, you’d never say never but I think it’s not top of the list and certainly, I think Steve Borthwick will keep the job until 2027. I’m committed here (at Racing) until 2027 so let’s see.

“I don’t think you should never say never. I don’t think you should ever be so hurt or so damaged that you could never go back somewhere. If the political will is there and the time is right, I’d hate to be so hurt or angry about certain things that would stop me from doing certain things. I don’t want to be that kind of person.”

Lancaster had the chance to stay on at Leinster under Leo Cullen but he felt the time was right for him to step up to being a No1 coach again. “Deep, deep down, I was weighing up in my mind I was almost at capacity here with the job I am doing and managing the commute from Leeds to Dublin, managing family dynamics, son, daughter, wife, mum, you know, all that stuff that goes on outside of work…

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“I knew I put myself in that position, but I didn’t want to sit back at the end of my career and think what if? So, the challenge of going to the Top 14, the challenge of learning French, the challenge of an organisation like Racing and trying to improve it to the consistent quality of Leinster was too tempting to turn down in the end.

“It was a little bit of right time, right place to leave Leinster for Leinster’s development but also for my own personal development. From the (Racing) approach to me saying yes prior to any contract talk took three weeks…

“Tough decision but eventually I made it and the difficult decision then was communicating the decision to the players and staff of Leinster. I found that very difficult. That was done in September, and we cracked on. I’m in Paris now… but you never know I might come back in the future.”

In his message on LinkedIn launching the new vlog, Lancaster wrote: “Having moved to France now I mentioned in my last post if anyone was interested in following the challenges of changing roles and moving to a new country, I was going to create some form of blog with lessons learned along the way.

“I wasn’t sure initially how to do it but with the help of Feargal O’Rourke, former managing partner of PWC Ireland, we have created a ‘Leaders on Leaders’ video where Feargal and I chat about the new role and how it is all going during my second week here in Paris.

“We plan to do one a month over the first year to chart the ups and downs of leading teams and if you are interested in taking a listen, please click on the link below.”

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JW 2 hours ago
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I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


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The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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