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What Tom Curry said when asked would he shake Bongi Mbonambi's hand

England's Tom Curry races into space versus Bongi Mbonambi's Springboks at Rugby World Cup 2023 (Photo by Anne-Christine Poujoulat/AFP via Getty Images)

Tom Curry has spoken about the intriguing November prospect of taking on the Springboks – and Bongi Mbonambi – for the first time since last year’s controversial Rugby World Cup semi-final. The game in Paris 11 months ago resulted in the England flanker accusing the South African hooker of racially abusing him during the first half at Stade de France.

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Curry claimed that he was called a “white c**t” by Mbonambi, but a World Rugby investigation found insufficient evidence. Mbonambi insisted at the time that the misunderstanding had arisen because Curry didn’t realise he was speaking Afrikaans, saying “wit kant”, the white-clothed side.

The English back-rower stood by his claim, telling the Daily Mail in a post-tournament interview: “I heard what I heard. Me and Bongi were talking and there’s no misunderstanding from my part. I went to the referee straight away.

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“I heard what I heard. That’s all I really want to say about it and I won’t really be talking about it again. It was tough for my family, my girlfriend and my brother. It was a tough experience but it is what it is. The investigation’s been done and that’s all I want to say about it.”

Having since overcome a career-threatening hip injury, Curry featured off the bench in all three of England’s summer tour matches and he has now spoken about the upcoming November 16 Autumn Nations Series international versus South Africa at London’s Allianz Stadium.

 

Interviewed by a media gathering – including RugbyPass – in Manchester ahead of Sale’s new Gallagher Premiership season opener with Harlequins next Sunday, Curry was asked for his thoughts on his potential rematch with the Springboks… and Mbonambi. “I know what’s coming,” he said. “Honestly, any time you get to play against South Africa, you are so lucky. I love playing against South Africa.

“I have said what I need to say. I think it’s unfortunate what has happened, but it is what it is. But if you get to play against South Africa, obviously I’d love to – it would just be a hell of a Test. They are looking really good and I couldn’t think of a better game to get involved in if I get the chance.”

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If Mbonambi plays in the match less than nine weeks’ time, would Curry shake hands with him? “I’m not answering that,” he said.

Now 26, Curry was a British and Irish Lions pick on their 2021 tour to South Africa. The upcoming 2024/25 season will culminate with the Lions visiting Australia, but he insisted his focus was just week to week with Sale, the club he played just once for last season due to his need for a career-saving hip operation after he seized up on the training ground in Carrington.

“In terms of that mentality going into games now, it’s just day by day, play the game at the weekend and then we will go from there. For me, there is so much right now to enjoy. I mean it would be a shame to kind of think about that [end-of-season Lions selection].

“It feels like the season has come around pretty quickly, to be fair. Honestly, I am just excited to get back playing at Sale. I feel like I haven’t done it for a while. I want to put my best foot forward.”

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DP 65 days ago

What White Side fails to realise is that Bongi won't be offering his hand, an apology is still required.. from Borthwick too seeing as there was NO evidence. Entitled English.

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Flankly 65 days ago

Even if it wasn't a matter of "wit kant", or similar misunderstanding, are we really talking about rugby players being unable to take verbals?


Any player that has played more than a few tame games will have got a lot of wind-ups from the opposition, not many of which would have been very politically correct.


The more likely interpretation is that he was not offended at all, but wanted to milk some sort of sanction on SA. That's what the ref concluded, and honestly it's hard to disagree.

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Bull Shark 65 days ago

Agreed. Nothing but a Nick White maneuver.


Imagine what gets said in the scrum.


10 bucks says we’ll be hearing a lot of wjd Kant and kort Kant calls in November.


“Kyk vir die wit Kant!”


“Vat daai kort Kant!”


“Op watter Kant is daai Groot poes?!”

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JD 65 days ago

Should have called him a poes, which is what he is.

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Bull Shark 65 days ago

Agreed.

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MattJH 65 days ago

Harden up, Tom. Your people stole the entire world, I’m sure you can handle a heckle where 50% of it can be changed by your behaviour.

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Terry24 64 days ago

Matt, but you are his 'people' ruling in stolen Aotearoa.

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Bull Shark 65 days ago

I’d like to know why Tom’s girlfriend took it so hard? And why wouldn’t he shake hands?


What a fuckin baby.

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Teddy 65 days ago

He should just take racial abuse on the chin?


You'd be still living under apartheid with that attitude.

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Ninjin 65 days ago

Hou die wit kant bo🤣

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Ninjin 65 days ago

A white British male finding it tough because an black African male made a racist comment( maybe). Does he know how his great grandfather spread the joy of racism to places like India, South Africa and the likes of Australia to name a few. The poor lad and his wounded heart. All so Disney. I hope he finds it tough also regarding the recent racist attacks in the Uk. I hope his girlfriend also supports him with the loss of hearing he is experiencing. Hou die wit kant bo🤣

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AF 65 days ago

It was related to how they were abused on social media for it. Definitely not 'baby' behaviour. Mayen you wouldn't mind having your family attacked in social media??? Use your brain pal.

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DP 65 days ago

Have a look at this on X, run a search and see whether you agree..


dan corder on X


“What did Mbonambi say? Judge for yourself. If this is the incident, he deserves a massive apology”

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DP 65 days ago

Have a gander at this: This is NOT spam, it's a walkthrough of the events on the field prior to and including when White Side tries to milk an advantage for Ingerland...


https://x.com/DanCorderOnAir/status/1716729086901457303

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DP 65 days ago

Yeah sure, a semi final and you and Bongi managed to find a space on the field to exchange pleasantries without ANYONE else hearing…

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Bull Shark 65 days ago

Actually everyone heard. On the mic. “Wyd kant”.


“Open side”.


Tom Curry is milking this to deflect attention from the fact that he’s an actual cu nt.

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Terry24 65 days ago

Don't like these questions trying to reignite a row.

Curry and Bongi know what happenned there.

Regardless of what was said the English media's reaction was f***ing outrageous.

Clearly most of the self righteousness was sour grapes for losing the semi. Dominating the pre final interviews with self important scores of questions re CurryGate and nothing on the rugby is unforgivable.

Solisi said that the English media is F**ked up.

It is all about England winning, no matter what the sport: and they will turn on everyone and anyone when that doesn't happen as it sells papers for him. In 2023 it was Bongi. The papers in question could honestly not give a flying f**k about racism. On the country they spend their time attacking minorities and non -whites.

So when the great SA captain says they are f***ed up. He is right on many levels.


Diego Maradona was the greatest soccer player to play the game. But his entire legacy in England the supposed 'home of football' was his handball against them. 40 years later at his death they were still going on about it. Gladly he was still taking the piss of them over it til the end!

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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