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Where are they now? The last England team of the amateur era 25 years after their 1995 World Cup exit

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This wasn’t how Jack Rowell’s England were meant to bow out of the old amateur era, losing 19-9 to France in a World Cup third-place off in Pretoria four days after getting steamrolled by Jonah Lomu and the All Blacks in the semi-finals. The plan for the England Class of 1995 was to reach the World Cup final, spoil the South African party and make full amends for what happened four years earlier when they were beaten by Australia in the 1991 final at Twickenham. 

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Swatted aside by the All Blacks in Cape Town, a damaging 3-25 interval deficit getting marginally reduced to a 16-point losing margin (29-45) thanks to a late rally with the result long since decided, Rowell made just two changes for the June 22 playoff 25 years ago, Ian Hunter replacing Tony Underwood on the wing and Steve Ojomoh coming in for Dean Richards at No8. 

A low frills first-half ended in a stalemate, the teams deadlocked at three points all, but France, who had an extra day to recover from their semi-final loss to the Springboks, were the better side after the break and tries from Emile Ntamack and Olivier Roumat put England out of their misery.

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By the time they got to play again five months later, the sport had turned professional and familiar names such as Brian Moore were no longer on the team sheet. Here, RugbyPass takes a step back in time to discover what became of the last England team of the old amateur era. 

15. Mike Catt

The Port Elizabeth native’s international career culminated in 75 England caps, two World Cup final starts and that precious 2003 win in Australia. If being a semi-final doormat for the unstoppable Lomu was the sacrifice necessary 25 years ago for that RWC subsequent glory to unfold eight years later, Catt played his rag doll part to a tee. 

Now 48, the 1997 Lions Test cap enjoyed a lengthy pro club career at Bath, winning the 1998 European final before switching to London Irish where the coaching career that now has him working with Andy Farrell’s Ireland commenced. Spent the last two World Cup cycles working as an assistant for England and Italy respectively. 

14. Ian Hunter (Tony Underwood)

The winger came into the side in place of Underwood and it turned out to be the last England appearance in his seven-cap career. A 1993 Lion who had his tour ended with a shoulder dislocation in the first match at Northland, he played for Northampton in the professional era until January 2000. A long-time managing director at Jellyfish Creative, a design and marketing agency, the now 51-year-old is currently a Krow Group business director. 

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As for Underwood, his express train try from a run that began inside the England half was critical to the ’95 quarter-final success over Australia.

That score, though, became forgotten amid the fanfare surrounding the Lomu demolition, Underwood later appearing alongside his brother Rory in a humorous Pizza Hut advert with the New Zealander remembering the semi-final. 

He played just eight more times for England after that RWC, the end coming in his 27-cap career at home to South Africa in 1998. A Lions Test player in 1997, he switched to Newcastle from Leicester when the club game went pro, winning the league title.

Spent the first year of retirement as a marketing assistant at the club before embarking on an aviation career, first with easyJet and then Virgin. Now aged 51, he is based in the UAE with Emirates.   

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13. Will Carling (capt)

He wasn’t meant to be skipper at the finals as he had lost the responsibility after infamously labelling the RFU powerbroker “57 old farts”. That decision was overturned following a public backlash, the Harlequins stalwart going on to retain the captaincy through to the 1996 Five Nations and he earned the last of his 72 England caps the following year.

Now 54, the midfielder, who earned one Test cap with the 1993 Lions, set up his own company, Will Carling Management, in 1999 which, according to Linkedin, “delivers bespoke events for clients in relaxed, fun environment”. Also founder of The Pack, an elite cycling club for the corporate world. He has managed to maintain his high profile, a popularity reflected in his 174K Twitter followers. 

12. Jerry Guscott

A Rolls-Royce of a player, his 65-cap England career carried on for another while, the centre making it through to the 1999 World Cup. He also clinched the 1997 Lions Test series win with a drop goal in Durban versus the Springboks on what was his third tour. 

Played professionally at club level with the European Cup-winning Bath and is still involved in rugby as a respected media pundit. Now 54, he is business development director at Vizion, a specialist retail insurance broker.

11. Rory Underwood

The lightning-quick winger dusted himself down after being Lomu-ed to win another six caps after the World Cup before drawing a final line under an 85-cap England career that also featured seven Lions Test appearances. A Leicester player, Underwood switched to Bedford and continued to fly as a Royal Airforce pilot after the game turned pro, completing an 18-year service in 2001. 

Has since had various company directorships and has owned Wingman Ltd since 2009, the performance consultancy and team development business. Remains involved at Leicester as a non-executive director, the now 56-year-old even making a cameo appearance in last year’s RugbyPass documentary series on the Tigers academy.   

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An example of the bruising treatment Jonah Lomu melted out to England (Photo by Adam Butler/PA Images via Getty Images)

10. Rob Andrew

Put the boot into the Aussies in the quarter-finals, but that was as good as it got at RWC95 for the then veteran. The third-place playoff versus France was the last start in a 71-cap England career where his only appearance after was off the bench versus Wales in 1997. 

A standout at Wasps in the amateur era, he guided Newcastle to league glory in the professional era and became the club’s director of rugby, helping Jonny Wilkinson towards greatness before joining the RFU in 2006 as director of elite rugby. 

Stayed in that role through to January 2011 and while he came under fire following the unsavoury World Cup fall-out later that year, he remained with the RFU as director of pro rugby until 2016. Now 57, he currently works as Sussex Cricket CEO. 

9. Dewi Morris

His 26-cap England career ended with the playoff versus France and he would have had so many more but for the old replacements rules where changes were only made for injuries – he sat on the bench on 27 occasions. The 1993 Lion took a break after the finals before remerging in the professional era at Sale. Now 56, he continues to work in rugby as a Sky Sports pundit.  

1. Jason Leonard

‘The Fun Bus’ still had plenty of life left in his career after RWC95, going on to feature on two more Lions tours and in two more World Cups, including an appearance off the bench in the 2003 final win over Australia. The last cap of his then world-record-setting 114-cap England career came the following year in Rome. 

Having called time on his Harlequins club professional career that same year, the now 51-year-old retains strong ties with the game, serving a year as RFU president in 2015/16, joining the Lions board in 2017 and doing likewise at the Six Nations the following year.  

A senior advisor at the Besso insurance group, he is also chairman of the Atlas Foundation which uses rugby to provide humanitarian benefit for the most deprived children around the world. 

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Victor Ubogu dances with the Isikolethu dance group in Durban (Photo by Dave Rogers/Allsport)

2. Brian Moore

World Cup ’95 was the end for the hooker’s respected international career which featured 64 England caps, the last coming in the French playoff, and five Lions Test caps. A qualified solicitor, the now 58-year-old ‘Pitbull’ has developed a punchy media career and gained rave reviews for his award-winning book, Beware of the Dog, which detailed his sexual abuse as a child. His popularity is reflected in having 233K Twitter followers.

3. Victor Ubogu

The now 55-year-old prop had a 24-cap Test career which ended in Sydney in 1999. Played professionally with Bath until 2000 and has since developed a successful sports hospitality and travel specialist company, VU Ltd.  

4. Martin Johnson

Was still only a relative newcomer on the Test circuit in 1995 in the sense that 66 of his 84 England caps were to come after this RWC. The 1997 Test series-winning Lions skipper rubber-stamped his legendary status when captaining England to 2003 World Cup glory but a career on the other side of the white line wasn’t as kind to the Leicester icon, Johnson’s tenure as national team boss ending sourly with 2011 World Cup quarter-final exit. Now 50, he does rugby punditry and has developed a keen interest in cycling. 

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An England banner that appeared in the crowd at the 1995 finals (Photo by Gary Bernard/AFP via Getty Images)

5. Martin Bayfield

Just four more caps followed in the lock’s 31-cap England career. Played professional club rugby at Northampton through to 1998 and had a stint as academy director before combining an acting career – he played the body double of Hagrid the Giant in all the Harry Potter films – with media work that included presenting the BBC’s Crimewatch. Now 53, he is part of the BT Sport rugby presenting team.    

6. Tim Rodber

There was another World Cup in the flanker, the 1999 tournament bringing the curtain down on a 44-cap England career that also featured caps with the 1997 Lions back in South Africa. Injury ended his Northampton club rugby career in 2001 and the former British Army captain has since had various managing director roles. Having turned 51 on June 2, he is now CEO of The Instant Group which delivers innovative workspace environments in over 110 countries.

7. Ben Clarke 

There were still plenty of outings left in the now 52-year-old’s 40-cap England Test career after the RWC before his last was earned in Sydney in 1999. The back row endured the precarious of professional club rugby, becoming one of the biggest casualties when Richmond went into liquidation. Saw out his playing days back at Bath before becoming a money broker. 

8. Steve Ojomoh (Dean Richards)

The back row ultimately only ever won twelve caps, his last coming in Dunedin against the All Blacks in 1998’s so-called tour of hell. A serial trophy winner at Bath, he went on to play for Gloucester, Parma and Newport before moving into coaching in 2003.

Opened the Little Willows nursery in Bath in 2010. Recovered from a stroke in October 2018 and the now 50-year-old’s connections with rugby are still strong as son Max is an England age-grade international who is now on professional terms at Bath.  

As for Richards, whom Ojomoh replaced in the England XV for the 1995 third-place playoff, you don’t have to look far to find the former No8 as he has been volunteering for his local police force in Newcastle during the coronavirus pandemic. 

Now 56, the long-time Falcons director of rugby finished playing at Test level in 1996 with 48 England caps and the 1993 Lions tourist played professionally at Leicester before succeeding Bob Dwyer as the coach. Sacked in 2004, he got back on the horse at Grenoble before a promising stint at Harlequins was ruined by the Bloodgate scandal which led to his resignation and a ban from the sport. 

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GrahamVF 37 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 7 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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