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Where Sarah Hunter believes England can improve against the Black Ferns

GLOUCESTER, ENGLAND - SEPTEMBER 07: Sarah Hunter, Defence Coach of England, looks on as players of England warm up prior to the Women's International match between England Red Roses and France at Kingsholm Stadium on September 07, 2024 in Gloucester, England. (Photo by Ryan Hiscott - RFU/The RFU Collection via Getty Images)

England defence coach Sarah Hunter admitted the Red Roses have “areas to work on” as they prepare to take on the world champion Black Ferns at Twickenham on Saturday.

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The Red Roses ran in six tries at Kingsholm last weekend to secure a 38-19 victory against France, captain Marlie Packer and winger Jess Breach each crossing the whitewash twice.

It was a 14th successive win in the fixture but while the result extended England’s unbeaten run to 16 matches – the Red Roses’ last defeat being the Women’s Rugby World Cup 2021 final in November 2022 – Hunter conceded they made it hard for themselves at times.

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Hunter, England’s most-capped player of all time, was happy the team was able to problem solve scrum and maul issues in the second half in Gloucester, but suggested they were still trying to find the perfect balance between expansive attack and watertight defence.

“I think every game you do want to see an improvement and we’ve got things to tidy up,” Hunter said on Monday when asked what success would look like at Allianz Stadium.

“Yes, we had ambition to play and that’s what we want to be. We want to attack teams and we want to go for it. But [we need to work out] how we maybe be a bit more controlled in that, make less errors, how we can ramp pressure up on the opposition defensively as well.

“So, I think that would be success. How we actually keep building our performances and keep taking things that we’ve been working on in training and pre-season into each game.

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“Yes, we won against France, but it certainly wasn’t a polished performance and we’ve got areas to work on. So, from that sense of things like yes, you always want to win, but we also want to see the performance in the key areas that we’ve identified that could do with a bit more finesse.”

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Defeat to the Black Ferns in the World Cup final two years ago is the only loss the Red Roses have suffered in their last 47 matches, dating back to a 28-13 reverse against the same opposition in July 2019.

Hunter is confident the players do not need the jolt of a rare defeat to aid their education on the road to what they hope will be a successful home tournament next year.

“I think when you’ve got a winning mentality and you’ve got a training environment that we now have, actually we create different situations, different scenarios,” Hunter explained.

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“We plan the training intensity that they train at to allow people to learn in those moments that we might not necessarily get from games. But there are moments in games where we can really spotlight and shine a light on them to say, well, how do we improve on this?

“Yes, we’ve won a game, but actually, is this going to be enough to win a World Cup?”

There were of course plenty of reasons for the England coaching staff to be cheerful on the bus trip back to London from Gloucester.

And Hunter, who revealed Abbie Ward is fit and in contention to feature against the Black Ferns this weekend, praised Morwenna Talling, the 22-year-old second row who started her third successive test in the England engine room against France.

“She had a few rough years with injury and I think, for me, the sign of a true competitor and I guess a true international player, is how hard they work through that time to come back and come back in probably a better place,” she said about her former England and Loughborough team-mate.

“Morwenna Talling’s certainly done that. She works incredibly hard on all facets of her game, in the gym. Obviously, she had a bit of a setback again before the Six Nations and to work and come back and how she finished that and the off-season she’s had has been pretty impressive.

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“And I think she’s still, what, 22 years old, which again, the ability of where she’s at and the potential of where she can go; we saw how well she played against France, and you just think in years [to come] how much more has she got to get better?

“So, a pretty scary and exciting prospect at the same time.”

Saturday’s match against the six-time world champions will be England’s last before they jet off to Canada to defend the WXV 1 title they won in New Zealand last November.

Hunter will not be on the plane to Vancouver as she prepares for the birth of her first child at the end of October, however, she will remain in contact with the squad and work remotely for the duration of the tournament.

The former England captain admitted she initially treated the prospect of her maternity leave like “being injured” but is confident she will be back on John Mitchell’s coaching staff ahead of next year’s World Cup.

“Mitch and Charlie [Hayter, RFU head of Women’s Performance] and the whole of the RFU have been so supportive of what [her maternity leave] looks like and they’re probably the ones going, ‘Just take your time’,” Hunter said.

“Mitch was like, ‘Just make sure you settle into being a mum and that life, and then we’ll have you back when you’re ready. And that’s good, we would rather have you back fully focused’.

“But yeah, the full intention is to be back ready to prep the girls for World Cup. You don’t want to be missing a home World Cup, that’s for sure.”

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JW 3 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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