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Why an ex-England 10 won't take issue with token Smith cap in Wales

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Former England international Andy Goode has explained why there should be no criticism of the token cap given to Marcus Smith versus Wales last Saturday. The round three Guinness Six Nations match was already in the 80th minute when Steve Borthwick threw Smith, Henry Arundell and Jack Walker into the fray for the last play of a match where the 20-10 result had been decided.

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The full-time whistle quickly blew after play restarted with a scrum as England knocked the ball on when they attempted to move it wide to the right of the set-piece and it meant that Smith and co headed back to the sidelines without having broken a sweat.

There was much debate in the aftermath as why Borthwick bothered with playing bench players for only a few seconds but ex-10 Goode was all for it as his Test career – during which at times he was a teammate of Borthwick’s – was pockmarked by internationals where he was left stewing unused on the bench and left feeling not part of the team.

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“I’ve been there,” he said on the latest Rugby Pod, explaining that there was a positive to Smith getting on for only a few seconds at the Principality. “The one that always sticks with me, Andy Robinson was the head coach of England, absolute cowboy, we are playing Italy away, we are winning by 40 points and I was the only f***er on the bench that didn’t get on. Not even for a second.

“I was raging after the game. I reckon I have been there about 10 times where I was on the bench for England and not come on, so I would have had 10 more caps. The game is won, you empty the bench, you give them a cap.

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“They’re not going to do anything because there is only a minute left but it just makes them feel part of it because I have been in a changing room where boys have had a win, and a comfortable win, and you have not got on and your kit is clean… He [Borthwick] wanted them to get on the field just to experience something. I don’t have a problem with it.”

Goode didn’t have a problem either that Borthwick kept his faith in skipper Owen Farrell despite his poor kicking off the tee keeping Wales in the contest on the scoreboard until the clinching 75h minute Ollie Lawrence try.

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“People are moaning that Marcus Smith should have come on, all this stuff. The way the game was, it would have taken a ballsy call to take Owen Farrell off and bring Marcus Smith on to completely change the game. Yes, that is what England fans potentially wanted to see but I thought during the game Owen Farrell played pretty well.

“His goal kicking, listen he is a world-class goalkicker, you can’t question his ability over his career as a goal kicker. He was 33 per cent at the weekend. I think he is 56 per cent over the Six Nations, which isn’t great, so you then have to question does he deserve his place in the team if he is the sole goal kicker.

“If there was someone else in that backline that could kick goals you would have expected that to swap over during the game but Borthwick has backed himself into a corner by making Farrell captain because it makes him undroppable.

“Normally, kicking is a strength of his game and the attacking side of it is perhaps not a strength but I thought at the weekend it was the other way around – his goal kicking was poor but the way he managed the game and the way he controlled field position and setting up how England played against a poor Wales team, he played pretty well.”

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While Farrell is now with England at their fallow week training camp in Brighton, Smith has been released to Harlequins in order to get some Gallagher Premiership game time this Saturday. That decision has resulted in George Ford getting called up to be the other out-half in this week’s training squad.

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BigMaul 660 days ago

Nonsense. The issue isn’t that Borthwick brought them on. It’s that he only gave them 15 seconds. That won’t make them feel part of the team. To feel part of the team they need meaningful minutes.

Also, there is another kicker in that back line - Slade is perfectly capable. So that comment is nonsense and Farrell really should have swallowed his pride and handed the kicking duties to Slade - something any good captain would recognise.

Finally, Farrell didn’t play “pretty well”. He kicked terribly from hand and tee and wasted overlaps. Defensively he was good, but with ball he was awful. And that should be the greater measure against a wooden spoon chasing Wales.

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Poe 661 days ago

A ballsy call to pull Farrell? Why? Not exactly on fire was he? The distrust of the bench speaks volumes...

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JW 5 hours ago
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I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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