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Why CJ Stander believes Leinster will now go to the next level

PARIS, FRANCE - OCTOBER 28: Jacques Nienaber, Head coach of South Africa reacts prior to the Rugby World Cup France 2023 Gold Final match between New Zealand and South Africa at Stade de France on October 28, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by Franco Arland/Getty Images)

Jacques Nienaber has not arrived in Dublin yet, but Leinster is already the envy of their European rivals.

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While Nienaber is preparing to take the Webb Ellis Cup on a victory parade around South Africa, the four-time European champions, Leinster, are gearing for his arrival at the RDS.

Retired Ireland international CJ Stander is a huge fan of Nienaber, having had first-hand experience of his coaching during his stint at Munster in 2016 and 2017.

The much-anticipated arrival of the two-time World Cup-winning mentor (first as an assistant and then as head coach) is seen as the move that can finally end Leinster’s trophy drought.

Having lost in the United Rugby Champions semifinals the last two years and the European Cup Final twice in succession, they are looking for a person to can take them to the next level.

“I am actually jealous of the Leinster squad getting Jacques [Nienaber],” Stander said at a media briefing to promote Round Three of the URC.

“I was coached by him at Munster and I just loved him as a coach.

“The thing about him is he is unbelievable technically and defensive-wise, he is the best.

“Between him [Nienaber], Andy Farrell and Simon on defence – if you get them together you are not going through.

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“He will, mentally and physically, give them another step in the ladder.

“Will it be enough? We will have to see.”

Stander said only time will tell how soon Nienaber’s arrival will get Leinster over the line.

“The Leinster set-up is, as always, pretty well-oiled,” the 51-times Irish capped South African said.

“There is a lot of new talent coming through.

“He will definitely take them to the next level.”

WATCH as retired Ireland international CJ Stander speaks about the value World Cup-winning Springbok coach Jacques Nienaber will add to Leinster

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Meanwhile, Stander says winning over in Europe remains a big challenge for the South African sides in the URC, but that it’s one they are happy to embrace.

No team from the Rainbow Nation has won on European soil so far this season, with the Sharks losing away to Munster and Leinster, while the Lions and the Bulls both went down to narrow defeats in Edinburgh and Ulster respectively last weekend.

Now all four of the South African franchises are on the road for the next two weeks, while the Stormers are heading into a four-match tour, with the Bulls and the Lions both facing three successive trips.

The table-topping Stormers begin their extended stay in Europe by travelling to Glasgow on Friday, while the Sharks take on the Ospreys at the Twickenham Stoop on the same day in a first-ever URC match in London.

The Bulls and Lions will both be out in Italy for games against Zebre and unbeaten Benetton respectively.

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Former Munster and Ireland star Stander, who is now back in the land of his birth South Africa, has been speaking about what lies in store for the SA sides in a URC round table.

“It’s still a big challenge for them to travel,” he said.

“It’s something they are trying to get their heads around and it’s probably going to take another half a season to get to a place where they are well rested when they arrive.

“It’s about getting that balance correct when they go over to Europe to get those points.

“If you look at the Stormers and the Bulls the last two years, they didn’t get a lot of points when they travelled. They made most of their points when they were back home. If they can get that correct, then the machine will start ticking over.

“But the sense from the teams and the players is that being in this competition is exactly where they want to be. There’s a lot of excitement around it, especially now that the Stormers have tasted glory.

“The URC gives you the opportunity to play against world-class teams every weekend, to test yourself. It is also very important in terms of bringing young talent through.

“With the Springbok players coming back from the World Cup, there will be even more excitement around the competition as they will generally make those teams better. When they do come back, you will probably see a spike in performance.”

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– Stander was speaking to rugby365.com

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Glen 425 days ago

Going to be tough to score tries against Leinster this season…

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JW 2 hours ago
The Fergus Burke test and rugby's free market

Of course not, but were not going to base our reasoning on what is said in one comment in a particular scenario and time, are we?


Actually, you are? Seriously?

Although Burke readily admits “I am driven by international rugby”, his final destination is still unknown. He could be one day replacing Finn Russell in the navy blue of Scotland, or challenging Marcus Smith for the right to wear a red rose on his chest, or cycling all the way home to the silver fern. It is all ‘Professor Plum in the billiards room with the lead pipe’ type guesswork, as things stand.

You yourself suggested it? Just theoretically? Look I hope Burke does well, but he's not really a player that has got a lot of attention, you've probably read/heard more him in this last few months than we have in his 4 years. Your own comments also suggest going overseas is a good idea to push ones case for national selection, especially for a team like NZ being so isolated. So i'll ask again, as no of your quotes obviously say one thing or the other, why don't you think he might be trying to advance his case like Leicester did?


Also, you can look at Leicesters statements in a similar fashion, where no doubt you are referring to his comments made while in NZ (still playing a big part of the WC campaign in his case). You should be no means have taken them for granted, and I'd suggest any other coach or management and he might not have returned (been wanted back).

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JW 3 hours ago
The Fergus Burke test and rugby's free market

As Razor should be, he is the All Black coach after all. Borthwick or Schmidt, not so much. The point I was trying to make is that people are comparing Razors first year (14 games) versus Fosters first 14 games, which were over two years and happened to conclude just before he lost all of his EOYT games (Ireland, France, England etc). Not to mention them being COVID level opponents.


So who were these 6 teams and circumstances of Marcus's loses? I had just written that sentence as a draft and it was still there after adding the prior sentence, so just left it there lol. So not bullying no, but left essentially to say 'i'm not going to find out of myself', yes. I thought I had already proved the need for that sort of requirement with the Razor reference. So as per above, there would be a lot of context to take out of those 14 games (those shared between Farrell Ford and Smith) against higher opponents. It's a good stat/way to highlight the your point, but all a stat like that really does is show you theres something to investigate. Had you done this investigation prior to coming to your realisation, or after?


Yes, my view is that England did very well to push New Zealand on multiple occasions, and Marcus specifically in keeping England in the game against Australia. Personally I think Englands results are more down to luck however. And as I said, I'm here to be swayed, not defend Marcus as the #1. I think I understand were you're coming from, and you make a good observation that the 10 has a fair bit to do with how fast a side can play (though what you said was a 'Marcus neutral' statement) and the same argument has been made with the All Blacks fascination with playing players like Beauden Barrett at 10 who can't orchestrate an attack like that in order to compound LQB into points. Even a 10 like Dmac is more a self creator than one that is a cog in a wider plan.


But I still don't think you'd be right if you've put down the sides lack of LQB (pretty sure I remember checking that stat) compared to the 6N as being something to do with a Marcus Smith side. We've seen other similar teams who rely on it being found out recently as well, I just think it's harder to get that flow on (lets not making it a debate about the relative strength of the hemispheres) now (hence said investigation into those games and contexts are required).


25 is also young, he is the best fit to take the side to a RWC. Ford or Farrell are not. Fin could be, but as you've said with Marcus, that would require a lot of change elsewhere in the team 2 years out of a WC. Marcus will get a 6N to prove himself so to speak, unless Fin gets in quick, I don't think you should want a change if you get a couple of reasonable results. But then you expect England to be in the top 3 of the world, let alone the 6N...

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