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Why Danny Care has no doubt which 10 will take England to 'next level'

Marcus Smith, George Ford and Fin Smith for England/ PA

George Ford’s return to the England squad this week has muddied the fly-half selection picture somewhat for Steve Borthwick.

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On one hand, England have gained the services of a player four caps shy of a century. On the other hand, Borthwick was put in the invidious position of choosing who should start in the No 10 shirt against the All Blacks on Saturday at Twickenham’s Allianz Stadium, and will be throughout the autumn.

In the first match since the Guinness Six Nations where all options are available to Borthwick, the head coach has opted to start Marcus Smith, with Ford returning from a quad injury to take his place on the bench for the third instalment of the year against Scott Robertson’s side.

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The Sale Sharks No 10 was given the reins in the Six Nations and spearheaded the birth of this new England, ably supported by Marcus Smith from the bench against Ireland. But an Achilles issue to Ford meant the Harlequin steered the ship against the All Blacks in July, backed up by his namesake Fin.

With Ford initially an injury doubt for the start of the Autumn Nations Series with a quad issue, the fly-half picture looked simple- Marcus Smith would start and Fin Smith would start on the bench. Now Borthwick will be in a quandary for the rest of November.

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But for former England scrum-half Danny Care there is no such dilemma. Regardless of Ford’s fitness, Marcus Smith has to start if England want to break into the top four of the world rankings.

Currently in fifth place in the rankings, joining the top table amongst Ireland, South Africa, New Zealand and France, or actually usurping one of them, will be England’s target over the coming months, and Care feels his Harlequins team-mate is the best choice to help achieve that feat.

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Though now looking on at England as an observer, it was not long ago that the 101-cap international was on the other side of the fence – just over six months in fact – so he will have first-hand experience of what Borthwick wants out of his team and how he wants to play. With plenty of knowledge of how both Marcus Smith and Ford operate, he is well equipped to offer his two penn’orth on the fly-half debate.

“Whatever happens, Marcus Smith would be my fly-half,” TNT Sports pundit Care recently said to RugbyPass. “I think the way England have developed their game and this sort of attack-minded nature that we’ve got now, with the players that we’ve got around them, with the speed that they can play at, for me, for England to get into that top four, he’s the fly-half.”

Care nevertheless still feels that Ford has an important role to play in the England camp, even if he does not feature in the matchday squad.

“That being said, George is still going to play a massively important part in that squad whether he’s playing or not,” the 37-year-old added. “It’s almost like another coach out there for the boys, he sees the game so well. Whether he’s on the bench or he’s starting, or he’s the third fly-half, he’ll be helping England to beat New Zealand. So he’s still got plenty of miles in the tank.”

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What is different about the England set-up since Care retired from international rugby in March is Borthwick’s coaching staff, with Felix Jones now working remotely and Joe El-Abd taking over as defence coach.

Though this could scupper Borthwick’s plans and unsettle a side that were on an upwards trajectory, Care feels it will only be a disruption if England choose to make it one.

“Felix is a world-class coach, I loved working with him, the boys did,” the scrum-half added. “But If he wants to be somewhere else and wants to go and do something else then you want people in the room that want to be there.

“So it’s one of those, you thank him for his time. He did some brilliant stuff for England, following on for some great work that Kevin Sinfield had done, and now it’s Joe El-Abd’s turn to put his stamp on some already really good work and hopefully try taking them to the next level. So it can be a disruption if you want to make it one. I think England are really enjoying working with Joe and I don’t think it will have too much of a distraction.”

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Care is echoing his former boss Borthwick when he mentions the ‘next level’ that England must ascend to, and believes they can achieve that over November with visits from the All Blacks, Australia, the world champions South Africa and Japan. But there are non-negotiables if they are to reach that upper echelon.

Care said: “I think for England, the next level that Steve’s always talked about is breaking into that top four in the world. Beating one of the top four teams. We beat Ireland obviously in the Six Nations, but I think England need to beat New Zealand or South Africa.

“I’m not saying they need to go and beat both of them, but I think to take that next level, it’s about picking off these world-class teams and there’s no better opportunity to go for New Zealand that first game.

“I thought they should have beaten them twice in the summer, which gave me great optimism that when New Zealand came over here, England would learn from that and have enough to beat them at home and I truly think they will this weekend.”

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

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Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


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