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Why ex-Wallaby believes Reds’ painful loss to Blues can be a ‘good’ thing

Tim Ryan of the Reds celebrates with Suliasi Vunivalu after scoring a try during the round 10 Super Rugby Pacific match between Queensland Reds and Blues at Suncorp Stadium, on April 27, 2024, in Brisbane, Australia. (Photo by Albert Perez/Getty Images)

The Reds may have been beaten by the Blues 41-34 in a Trans-Tasman thriller on Saturday evening but that defeat could be the catalyst for future success according to former Wallaby Stephen Hoiles.

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Queensland had snapped a disappointing three-match losing streak just eight days earlier by thrashing the Highlanders 31-nil in Brisbane. In round 10, they looked to do the same against the Blues at the very same venue.

Playing against the Aucklanders at Brisbane’s Suncorp Stadium on the ANZAC Day Weekend, the Reds showed plenty of fight and probably should’ve won the match but it wasn’t to be in the end.

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The Reds were leading by 11 points with 15 minutes to play, but two late tries saw the Blues snatch victory from the jaws of defeat with Sam Nock crossing for a runaway match-winner in the 82nd minute.

Match Summary

1
Penalty Goals
1
5
Tries
6
3
Conversions
4
0
Drop Goals
0
120
Carries
141
7
Line Breaks
6
9
Turnovers Lost
17
9
Turnovers Won
4

While the Blues are riding high in second with an 8-1 record, Queensland occupy sixth place and still appear to be well on track for a spot in the Super Rugby Pacific playoffs in about six weeks.

“I reckon it’s going to be good for the Reds, to be honest,” Stephen Hoiles said on Stan Sports’ Between Two Posts.

“I think no matter where they play, if they get a home final or don’t, a game like this will be able to give them confidence that they can go anywhere and play good style footy and scare some teams and get a win.

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“I’m jumping ahead but sometimes you lose a game like that… I think what Les Kiss can be like, you can take a hep of positives out of that game.

“There’s no point sitting there going, ‘you didn’t do this, you didn’t do that.’ They did a lot of good stuff and I think that’ll help them in four to six weeks.”

Former Junior Wallabies winger Tim Ryan stole the show with a blistering hat-trick within a 15 minute span. If you’re a rugby fan, chances are you’ve seen Ryan’s third try replayed over and over.

Ryan, just 20 years of age, leapt about two metres to his right before stepping inside two Blues defenders, including All Black Mark Tele’a, on a sensational break up the field.

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Once the rising star dove for the in goal and completed the score, the Brisbane venue went berserk. Queensland were on the cusp of an incredible upset and an unlikely home-grown hero led the way.

But the Reds have failed to close out fight games before this season, and this was another case. Coach Les Kiss was understandably “filthy” at full-time after his team conceded 14 points in eight minutes.

“I had a quick chat to him after the game and he was just filthy they couldn’t close it out,” former Wallaby and Stan Sport commentator Morgan Turinui added.

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“Obviously lost in golden point to the Hurricanes already once this year, he feels like they’ve left a few out there.

“But I said to him, ‘surely you now know you can beat anyone in the competition?’ Like there’s that level to it.

“Especially if they get one at home. If they can sneak into the top four that sets them up but they beat the Chiefs in Hamilton last year… they know they can go away (and win).”

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SK 30 minutes ago
What is the future of rugby in 2025?

Set pieces are important and the way teams use them is a great indication of how they play the game. No team is showcasing their revolution more than the Springboks. This year they have mauled less and primarily in the attacking third. Otherwise they have tended to set like they are going to maul and then play around the corner or shove the ball out the back. They arent also hitting the crash ball carrier constantly but instead they are choosing to use their width or a big carrying forward in wider areas. While their maul is varied the scrum is still a blunt instrument winning penalties before the backs have a go. Some teams have chosen to blunt their set piece game for more control. The All Blacks are kicking more penalties and are using their powerful scrum as an attacking tool choosing that set piece as an attacking weapon. Their willingness to maul more and in different positions is also becoming more prominent. The French continue to play conservative rugby off the set piece using their big bruisers frequently. The set piece is used differently by different teams. Different teams play different ways and can be successful regardless. They can win games with little territory and possession or smash teams with plenty of both. The game of rugby is for all types and sizes and thats true in the modern era. I hope that administrators keep it that way and dont go further towards a Rugby League style situation. Some administrators are of the opinion that rugby is too slow and needs to be sped up. Why not rather empower teams to choose how they want to play and create a framework that favours neither size nor agility. That favours neither slow tempo play or rock n roll rugby. Create a game that favour both and challenge teams to execute their plans. If World Rugby can create a game like that then it will be the ultimate winner.

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JW 5 hours ago
'Let's not sugarcoat it': Former All Black's urgent call to protect eligibility rules

Yep, no one knows what will happen. Thing is I think (this is me arguing a point here not a random debate with this one) they're better off trialing it now in a controlled environment than waiting to open it up in a knee jerk style reaction to a crumbling organtization and team. They can always stop it again.


The principle idea is that why would players leave just because the door is ajar?


BBBR decides to go but is not good enough to retain the jersey after doing it. NZ no longer need to do what I suggest by paying him to get back upto speed. That is solely a concept of a body that needs to do what I call pick and stick wth players. NZR can't hold onto everyone so they have to choose their BBBRs and if that player comes back from a sabbatical under par it's a priority to get him upto speed as fast as possible because half of his competition has been let go overseas because they can't hold onto them all. Changing eligibility removes that dilemma, if a BBBR isn't playing well you can be assured that someone else is (well the idea is that you can be more assured than if you only selected from domestic players).


So if someone decides they want to go overseas, they better do it with an org than is going to help improve them, otherwise theyre still basically as ineligible as if they would have been scorning a NZ Super side that would have given them the best chance to be an All Black.

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