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Why Jordie Barrett at second-five for the All Blacks makes sense

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I have one hesitation in continuing to spruik Jordie Barrett’s abilities as a second five-eighth.

Barrett’s performances for the Hurricanes at 12 might not excite All Blacks coach Ian Foster, but they do enthuse me. And many others, I would suggest.

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Let’s put it this way: I’d far rather Barrett at second-five than Roger Tuivasa-Sheck.

At least Barrett wears a mouthguard, which is something New Zealand Rugby (NZR) will have to tackle when Tuivasa-Sheck makes the team. I say makes, because I presume – rightly or wrongly – that NZR haven’t signed him to merely play franchise footy.

The way it’s been told to me, players effectively sign All Blacks contracts these days, rather than simply NZR ones. That partly explains why TJ Perenara, for instance, has continued to be a fixture in the squad, despite enough evidence to suggest he should not.

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But I digress.

My reservation about Barrett not playing fullback is that some genius might decide that Stephen Perofeta should do instead.

Look, I’m sure Perofeta could run rings around test teams of no consequence. But, to me, he’s a poor man’s Damian McKenzie and we’ve seen how occasionally ineffective and error-prone McKenzie can be when it counts.

There was a book published, many years ago now, called All Blacks Almost. It chronicled the lengthy list of players who’d been stars in domestic rugby but, for one reason or another, never found their way into the country’s top team.

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We’ve well and truly abandoned that model. Where once we might pick 25 All Blacks a season, only 16 or 17 of whom would actually play, now we routinely award caps to 50 blokes.

And then we wonder why NZR has to get into bed with an outfit like Silver Lake? So would you, if you had all those All Blacks wages to pay.

The point is, it’s no longer good enough for guys to be decent franchise players. It’s bad enough that we fans and media project All Blacks status upon all sorts of relatively mediocre players, the national selectors then go ahead and pick most of them.

Perofeta has performed creditably behind a dominant Blues pack this season. The team, by rights, should now go on and win Super Rugby Pacific.

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And it’s natural, in those circumstances, for people to believe everyone in a winning team is a world-beater.

I won’t catalogue any myself, but I’m sure most of you could rattle off the names of a dozen players who’ve owed their All Blacks selection to being part of outstanding franchise teams without actually being elite footballers themselves.

But back to Barrett.

I genuinely think his size, physical presence and playmaking ability make him a compelling option to play 12. I think we’re largely pedestrian in midfield and need the punch and vigour Barrett could provide.

And I partly say that because I’m still not sold on Rieko Ioane at centre.

Great ball-carrier, sure, but if you want to play with width, as the All Blacks do, then it helps to have a centre who might occasionally pass the ball. Yes, Ioane can offload in the tackle, but only after he’s helped himself to the good ball first.

I’d still play Ioane on the wing and let him run to his heart’s content. There’s also less defensive decisions to be made there, which would suit him too.

Barrett would be a multiple threat in midfield, with his ability to carry, pass and kick. Too often opposition defenders are able to slide across, because they know the danger’s out wide.

Barrett would keep more midfield defenders honest and, in turn, create more space for New Zealand’s back-three.

But I doubt that’ll happen.

Barrett will be fullback, Perofeta will be picked (amid great fanfare) but rarely play, Tuivasa-Sheck and Ioane will be among those mixed and matched in midfield and Perenara will continue to accumulate caps off the bench.

I doubt 2022 will be a year when the selectors seek to make unpopular decisions. There’s ground to be made up with the rugby public and NZR might even insist Julian Savea makes an appearance or two.

Never mind that it’s wins, rather than feel-good stories, that fans actually care about.

It’s going to be a fascinating season.

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Ben 926 days ago

Completely agree. Our midfield options range from talented but flawed (Reiko) to downright unplayable against top teams (ALB, Havili). Tupaea has this huge reputation, but lacks size and any real x-factor.
Jordie at least has the size and skills to threaten the top midfields... Plus his selection at 12 frees up Jordan to play fullback. Win win.

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JB 927 days ago

More drivel from Bidwell. He gets paid for spitting in his coffee and throwing it at his word processor. It’s not enough to trash the players or coaches, he has to trash the fans too. The world according to Bidwell is a miserable place

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Sean 927 days ago

Something that seems to be missing from the conversation is how important combinations are, if B Barrett is at 10 (he should be) then who better then his brother who he played with at the Hurricanes to play next to him at 12?

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Thomas 927 days ago

No no no no. What is the country’s obsession with Jordie Barrett? It’s mind-boggling. He runs hard into contact, yes. That doesn’t mean he can power THROUGH contract and make post-contact meters. He has zero footwork and is generally lethargic on attack. RTS, Tupea or Havili.

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James 927 days ago

Its a no brainer guys. Quin Tupae is the in form and specialist, emphasise specialist, 2nd 5. Also, great at turn over ball. He'
s my pick for long term AB 2nd 5.

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Tomasi 928 days ago

Yes, I like the idea of J. Barrett at second-five. If they're going to put a rookie 12 in that position then why not a proven test player, who can kick 50-metre penalties? Also, he's going well playing for a poor team. Good for when that All Black pack gets pushed around by the Irish.

Agree that Perenara's form doesn't warrant selection, and R. Ioane has been poor with his distribution, although has been playing well of late, so the wing is a better option. If we're going to blood someone, I'd like to see what Bailyn Sullivan can do at centre at test level. He started well this year.

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bobsyouruncle 928 days ago

This article is absolute rubbish. Perofeta was domestic player of the season last year, playing for Taranaki. Okay he might not play that much for the All Blacks this year... but are you suggesting we don't select a 3rd 10 this season? Do you not understand the All Blacks play almost 15 games a year, you can't play the same 23 players every game. Theres things called injuries and you need to build depth, and give blokes who deserve it chances. 50 blokes? Thats just not true at all. If you'd been paying to SR this season you would see Ioane's passing has immensely improved, aswell as his defence. They have been the best defence all season. Name a 13 playing anywhere close to Ioane at the moment? This article sounds like it was written over a year ago. And what on earth does wearing a mouthguard have to do with being selected for the team? Should Ardie be dropped aswell?

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JW 4 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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