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'Change is coming': Why the All Blacks 'can't afford' a 'total cleanout'

(Photo by Phill Magakoe/AFP via Getty Images)

The New Zealand Rugby rumour mill has been in full swing for quite some time now, with many fans calling for radical change in the coaching ranks.

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Head Coach Ian Foster came immense pressure during last year’s disastrous international campaign, which saw the All Blacks lose to Ireland and Argentina at home for the first time ever.

New Zealand’s uncharacteristically poor form spanned all the way back to their end-of-season tour in 2021, as they lost their final two test matches against the Irish and France.

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Including a loss to reigning World Cup champions South Africa at Mbombela Stadium, the men in black had lost five of their last six matches.

Considering the legacy of the All Blacks and the expectations that come with it, the team were heavily scrutinised ahead of their second test against the Springboks.

While a 35-23 point win over South Africa at Ellis Park alleviated some of this pressure, and saw the New Zealand Rugby Union stand by Foster, some supporters still wanted change.

As the year went on, and the All Blacks found their mojo once again with a seven test unbeaten run to end the year; yet calls for change continued to persist.

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For these fans, they’re set to get their wish later this year.

As reported by New Zealand website Stuff, a New Zealand Rugby panel is set to appoint the new All Blacks coach for 2024 and beyond within the first half of the year.

It’s understood that Crusaders coach Scott Robertson and Japan coach Jamie Joseph are among the frontrunners for the position.

But this might not be a good thing ahead of this year’s World Cup.

Rugby World Cup winning fullback Israel Dagg has warned that the All Blacks “can’t afford” to have a “total cleanout.”

“Change is coming,” Dagg said on SENZ.

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“Many of you have been demanding change in that All Blacks team for a while now, for a very, very long time, wanting it and well, change is about to come.

“Post the World Cup, the All Blacks will announce a new All Blacks regime and they will have a total cleanout.

“All signs are leading to a total cleanout and you can’t look (much) further than the Chiefs in 2011 when they had a total cleanout.

“They came last or neat last that year but then went on to have some very successful years with Dave Rennie.

“The All Blacks, I feel, can’t afford that. The sponsorship, the legacy of the man the All Blacks hold, but hey, change is change.”

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jill 796 days ago

Izzy who

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Marius 798 days ago

I don't understand why everyone is so afraid to give Razor a crack. His workrate and that of those who play for him clearly puts him a cut above the rest. Rhe Barbarians performance last year proves it.

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Mark 799 days ago

He's one of fosters mates so of course he's gonna stick up for him. Fosters legacy (like him or not) will be remembered for all the wrong reasons. Unless he pulls a Beaver out of the hat this october...

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fl 1 hour ago
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He’s won many trebles in his career - why do you only care about one of them?

I think its unsurprising that he’d feel more emotional about his recent achievements, but its less clear why you do.


“Is it FA cups or League cups you’re forgetting in his English trophy haul? You haven’t made that clear…”

It actually was clear, if you knew the number he had won of each, but I was ignoring the league cup, because Germany and Spain only have one cup competition so it isn’t possible to compare league cup performance with City to his performance with Bayern and Barcelona.


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I can count, but clearly you can’t divide! He was at Barca for 4 years, so that’s 3.5 trophies per year. He was at Bayern for 3 years, and actually won 7 trophies so that’s 2.3 trophies per year. He has been at City for 8 completed seasons so that’s 2.25 trophies per year. If in his 9th season (this one) he wins both the FA cup and the FIFA club world cup that will take his total to 20 for an average of 2.22 trophies per year.


To be clear - you said that Pep had gotten better with age by every metric. In fact by most metrics he has gotten worse!

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fl 3 hours ago
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“He made history beyond the age of 50. History.”

He made history before the age of 50, why are you so keen to downplay Pep’s early career achievements? In 2009 he won the sextuple. No other manager in history had achieved that, and Pep hasn’t achieved it since, but here you are jizzing your pants over a couple of CL finals.


“If continuing to break records and achieve trophies isn't a metric for success”

Achieving trophies is a metric for success, and Pep wins fewer trophies as he gets older.


“He's still competing for a major trophy this year. Should he get it, it would be 8 consecutive seasons with a major trophy. Then the world club cup in the summer.”

You’re cherry picking some quite odd stats now. In Pep’s first 8 seasons as a manager he won 6 league titles, 2 CL titles, & 4 cup titles. In Pep’s last 8 seasons as a manager (including this one) he’s won 6 league titles, 1 CL title, & 2 (or possibly 3) cup titles. In his first 8 seasons he won the FIFA world club cup 3 times; in his last 8 seasons he’s won it 1 (or possibly soon to be 2) time(s). In his first 8 seasons he won the UEFA super cup 3 times; in his last 8 he won the UEFA super cup once. His record over the past 8 seasons has been amazing - but it is a step down from his record in his first 8 seasons, and winning the FA cup and FIFA club world cup this summer won’t change that.


Pep is still a brilliant manager. He will probably remain a brilliant manager for many years to come, but you seem to want to forget how incredible he was when he first broke through. To be clear - you said that Pep had gotten better with age by every metric. That was false!

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