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Woodward demands Borthwick stamps out 'rubbish' England antics

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The Owen Farrell red card and the late-game England comeback dominated the commentary coming out of last Saturday’s Summer Nations Series match versus Wales at Twickenham. However, it didn’t go unnoticed the goading behaviour of some English players whenever their team won a penalty or a turnover.

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It’s a carry-on that was debated on social media and ex-England coach Clive Woodward has now waded into the fuss, demanding that current head coach Steve Borthwick get a grip on this type of celebration, branding it an ugly look just weeks out from the start of the Rugby World Cup with the September 9 clash versus Argentina in Marseille.

Woodward has a reputation for never pulling his punches in his Sportsmail columns and his latest contribution had last weekend’s on-pitch behaviours in the crosshairs. ā€œI absolutely hate the incessant celebrating by England’s players each time the team win a penalty,ā€ he began, jumping straight into the topic.

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ā€œIt’s awful and has to stop. I could never, ever imagine coaching a side that did that because it does not reflect well at all on those involved, including the head coach. As England’s boss, Steve Borthwick has to get a handle on it now because it is not a good look for the national side.

ā€œThe celebrating, which sees all the players needlessly going absolutely nuts, is symptomatic of wider problems. When England win a penalty or a turnover, their players all come together and celebrate as if they have just won the World Cup. They aren’t the only team to do this, by the way.

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ā€œSometimes, England even do it when a member of the opposition makes a mistake. I’m not a fan of that either. We saw countless examples of these penalty celebrations in the win over Wales on Saturday. Maro Itoje, Jamie George and Ben Earl were at the fore for most of them.ā€

What especially riled Woodward was that the celebrations neutered the potential for England to quickly restart play and take advantage of a defence not being set or back three players being out of position.

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ā€œThere are so many immediate attacking opportunities and none of these options are available to England because everyone is gathered around the ball celebrating like it’s a birthday party! Not only does this stop the game dead, it doesn’t help the spectacle,ā€ he continued.

ā€œIt also looks particularly childish. Once England are done celebrating, all they can do is kick to touch, go for goal, or opt for a scrum. Playing quickly is off the menu.

ā€œEngland’s players would probably say their celebrating is a way of motivating and congratulating their teammates and a pressure release in what is an intense environment. What utter nonsense. If you need to gee up players who are representing England, then they should not be on the field in the first place.ā€

Woodward took issue with one particular example. ā€œThere was one incident in the win over Wales where England won a scrum penalty after an opposition knock-on. Itoje pumps the air like he is dancing in a nightclub. Earl and Jack Willis celebrate individually then hug each other!

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ā€œMax Malins, who wasn’t involved in the play, comes in from the wing to give everyone a tap and join the party. Why? Malins should be staying out wide, ready to attack or be part of the next phase.

ā€œI don’t personally know anybody in rugby who approves of teams doing this. It’s complete rubbish. I can’t see a single reason why it’s a positive.ā€

  • Click here to read the full Clive Woodward Sportsmail column
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Pierre Henri 631 days ago

I absolutely agree. It's a lack of respect for the opponent team. A gentleman woud not act this way.

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Tris 634 days ago

I think this has always been the case to a lesser extent. It got hyped during Covid as teams reacted to a lack of crowds.


I dont massivly like it. But I dont have the skill, drive or temprement to be an international, so they know what works for them.


As long as they dont get involved with the opposition, thats crap.


I think Clive is living on being the only English Manager to win a world cup and sometimes wants it to stay that way. And thinks his 20 year old views are relevant.

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Poe 634 days ago

It is what it looks like - a team under the pump bigging themselves up in a hysterical manner. Look at what happens when the opposite happens and they are on the backdoor- stupid penalties and cards. Making Aussies look level headed...

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Mark 634 days ago

If itoji put as much effort into trying to replicate the player he once was, as he does with these ridiculous shows of faux bonhomie then England might once again have a pack that justifies the hype!!

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Nathan 634 days ago

Agreed. That and play acting for cards. BS behaviour. Keep rugby clean! Team fines should be issued and split between the match day 23. This would not be an issue after 6 months šŸ‘

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Guy88 634 days ago

They are Saracen players and have been doing it for years in the Premiership. I do not agree with it at all, pathetic really.

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mg 634 days ago

Itoje started this trend during the Lions series. A part of me likes it because it celebrates the grinding moments that don’t always win the plaudits. It’s also a part of a culture of celebrating little victories that the team might be focusing on, like getting on the ball or causing a knock on thru pressure.


I do agree with the notion it leaves opportunities not taken to attack, but few teams take quick taps nowadays when a 40-50 metre gain is on option thru a kick to touch.


Then again the celebrations can also irk the opposition who u don’t need to give motivation too

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Paul 634 days ago

Honestly, I always enjoy having a laugh at Clive W and the things that sometimes comes out of his mouth. BUT this time I agree 100% with him.

He also did mention that England is not the only team doing it. I agree.

It is not in the spirit of the game.

It doesn't look good and leaves a bad taste in my mouth seeing it.

I think childish behaviour comes to mind.....

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Chris 634 days ago

in my view, especially when it comes after a mistake from the opposition. Congratulate a brilliant jackle if you must but please don't praise an opponent knock-on!!

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DR 634 days ago

Oh please... Has England got a "kick me" sign on the back of their jumpers? Surely no article about schadenfreude would be complete without invoking the long standing antics of Aaron Smith.

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Nathan 634 days ago

I think you missed the part when he's stated not just England. It's All teams.

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BM 634 days ago

DR you are so right. I think that’s why I loathe the All Blacks. As a lad I used to respect them, and looked up to their standards as the good standard of rugby practitioners. What with all the cheating and professional whinging I have just come to despise the team. What’s more, they’re so talented that they don’t even have to do all that nonsense, but refs cower at thought of blowing the whistle against an All Black infringement.

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